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 Post subject: Gurney Pied
PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 2:23 pm 
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atkinson wrote" they were really black spangle pyles,a white ground colour spangled evenly with black,and hackle and saddle pure black in the cocks.

What would be the genetic base for that colour. Whether its spangled like a hamburg or a reverse colouration of an OE spangle ( small black dots ) i dont know but would be interested to see what the colour genetic fans on here put forward


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 Post subject: Re: Gurney Pied
PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 5:31 pm 
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Hi,

It may be similar to the exchequer leghorn pattern that he is describing? If not you could be right like SSH. without pictures it would be hard to determine.

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 Post subject: Re: Gurney Pied
PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 7:02 pm 
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If I can get home in the daylight I will get some pictures of my birds that a few old timers have told me are the right colour for Gurney Pieds, They tend to change a fair bit with each moult.


But they are Oxfords so your thread might get locked.

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 Post subject: Re: Gurney Pied
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Drover; He who dares wins! Take the risk! I would love to see them!


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 Post subject: Re: Gurney Pied
PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 7:27 pm 
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It would be good to see some


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 Post subject: Re: Gurney Pied
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Transplant the hackle black from a lakenvelder to a silver spangled hamburgh... ;)

Don't you mean gournay fowl?


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 Post subject: Re: Gurney Pied
PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 7:57 pm 
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i await the pictures.
Is there a gene that reverses the colour of spangles? I cant see why there wouldnt be but cant think of any. Similiar with black pyle and dun pyle mentioned in weir i think. White bird with black or blue in place of red on an oridnary pyle. The only similiar thing ive seen is a lakenvelder


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 Post subject: Re: Gurney Pied
PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 9:14 pm 
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drover wrote:
But they are Oxfords so your thread might get locked.


There is no reason why photos of Oxfords will get a thread locked. Just as long as people remember this thread is about a particular colour/pattern, so highly critical comments about the quality of the pictured birds will not be required.


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 Post subject: Re: Gurney Pied
PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 9:25 pm 
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Henk69 you may be onto something i have never thought about that before the gournay being black spangled


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 Post subject: Re: Gurney Pied
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excuse my ignorance but whats a gournay?
Wasnt there a variety called black spangled pheasant red? I seen wheaten bantams as a kid ticked black on the outer edges of feathers, mostly the breast. Whether that helps i dont know. I just cant see that the spangles being as big as a hamburgs. It would be so far removed from all other versions of gamefowl colours.


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 Post subject: Re: Gurney Pied
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Pearl eye they are a french breed that are a black spangle colour a bit leghornish from what i remember in type.


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 Post subject: Re: Gurney Pied
PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 9:21 am 
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this is a gournay http://www.feathersite.com/Poultry/CGD/ ... urnay.html more solid built than i remembered


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 Post subject: Re: Gurney Pied
PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 1:59 pm 
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I thought that they were black pyles ...


From 'The Game Fowl Colour Guide' by Owen Dickey (nd):

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 Post subject: Re: Gurney Pied
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Black Pyle is like a photo negative to a Birchen?

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 Post subject: Re: Gurney Pied
PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 7:45 pm 
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great picture. So now whats the colour genetics. Its a striking combination


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