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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:10 pm 
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I have been breeding blue, black and splash plymouth rocks now for 5 years or longer.I have some really nice birds now.My problem is I am having the same reoccurring problem all the time.The leg colour.The legs on the splash birds are always a beautiful corn yellow in the roosters and hens.The blues you can see yellow in them but you can also see blue in them too.The blacks are the same as the blues,you can see the yellow but also have black in them.Very yellow under there feet.Anyone got any ideas that may help me.I would rather not if I can help it introduce another breed into them.Would rather keep them pure rocks.I know it is a slow process with breeding good birds but any thoughts would be appreciated please.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:39 pm 
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Hi,

The best blacks wih yellow legs are eb, barred birds are E extended black, your blues and blacks maybe E based, the baring gene is closely linked to id, inhibitor of dermal melanin, this enables bright yellow legs on barred rocks, with out it the bird will have willow or black legs with yellow soles, eb blacks and blues still need to be PB and CB look at Blackdottes book in the recipe section and it will become clearer, if not i will email you on which direction i am about to take, and we can do some swaps.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:08 pm 
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Hi mummaroo and Christian,
Are you at the stage yet of wanting to post pictures of your birds in blue , black and splash?
As I would love to see how they are going, I would love especially to see the splash birds, I love the breed and really think the more colours the better. Are they bantams or standard?-sorry just read standard at the bottom of your post.
Good luck with your programs and really do hope to see some of your birds at some stage.
If you are ever up to or wanting to spreading the lines I would love eggs!!! Always worth asking, you never know.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:02 am 
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eb blacks and blues still need to be PB and CB look at Blackdottes book in the recipe section and it will become clearer,
Daza and I have been chatting about PB and CB lines and has pointed out a few things to me.Now I am going to ask a few things you may think are simple but,I have no understanding of them(call me dum)Ok the first being. :help:
How do you know with the blues blacks and splashs what is PB line and what is a CB line?
Is there any way of telling before you breed from them or not?
I don't have the time to read books and find it just about impossible to read due to other commitments hear with running this place.We don't get so called rainy days and are in drought so we are hand feeding stock.Maybe I will get a chance if I ever retire :rofl: :rofl: Any help is much appreciated.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:18 am 
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Hi M,

You will have PB lines where pullets have nice clean yellow legs and ligt under colour in feather and cockrels that have smutty black skin legs with yellow under colour, in Cb males will be the perfect bird, reverse of above.

I have also emailed you :D

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:12 am 
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Hi, I didn't realise you had put up a post.
Yeh, you will have to decide if you want PB or CB. I you can put up a few pictures I'm sure it would help with selecting which way to go. You will have birds that show leaky black or discolouration in their breast feathers. Also it is real important to know which birds came from how.
In pullet breeding the rooster can look like train wrecks and they can father perfect pullets. The same goes for Cockerel breeding roo's.
I'm in the middle of this little project with a Brahma roo I got from Victoria.

It would be great to see pictures. :thumbs:

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:30 am 
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Hi Daza,
I would like to have both PB and CB lines.I will get some photos together in a few days.Just had a run in with a black snake Saturday so not feeling that good at present.
I know what you are saying about which birds came from where and that atm is not a problem.I will start toe punching my PB line when breeding .I want to do this right so that is why I have posted and not plod along with a lot of useless birds that aren't good quality.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:37 am 
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Some photos of the rocks.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:51 pm 
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Hi, I love your blue roo at the bottom of the pictures. :thumbs:

With beck and leg colour you will have to breed with the birds that have yellow(it doesn't matter what shade). I have found with my buff rocks their legs where a lot better when I feed them a good chick starter. This made the legs bright yellow from week 1. The next thing is breed size and type and hatch every egg from your best trio(the roos colour isn't as important, but his mother must be a good colour). You can use your blue roo and 2 of your best black hens.
I think you are getting there, I just think you have to be a bit heavier with the axe. Any green or blue legs are out straight away.
It's great to see you having a go. :thumbs:

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:15 pm 
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Looks like you went to the Wyandotte for the colouring, yes?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:46 pm 
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rwood wrote:
Looks like you went to the Wyandotte for the colouring, yes?

Raf


The colour of the legs, I would guess Orp.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:19 pm 
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Maybe... :hmmm:

Ive seen one of these in my grow out pen though... is that a rose comb?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:35 pm 
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No it is not a rose comb.I will go through my photos and see if I can find a better photo of him tomorrow.


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Going by your signature I think I can see where itcomes form now..... should have seen that earlier... :thumbs:

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:53 pm 
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Hi All,

Blue rocks are supposed to be the same colouration as andalusion blue, that is laced blue, I have thought hard of how to do this but think it is a project for further down the line for me. :biggrin:


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