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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:12 pm 
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these are beautiful chickens,the black/buff look like buckskin horse colour and the white/buff look like little palomino's,are there any aussie breeders of these?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:18 pm 
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Never heard of them before?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:27 pm 
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To my knowledge the answer is no!!
But give them time and someone will attempt to make them

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:39 pm 
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A German breed originally. From http://www.omlet.co.uk/breeds/breeds.ph ... ed=Vorwerk:

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The Vorwerk originates from Hamburg, Germany around 1900 and was developed by the German breeder Oskar Vorwerk who gave his name to the breed. He developed them as good utility birds with belted markings combined with buff feathering rather than white. They were first shown in 1912 and are thought to have come from Lakenvelders, Orpingtons, Ramelslohers and Andalusians.


Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorwerk_(chicken)) says:

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Beginning in 1900, poultry breeder Oskar Vorwerk began to create a medium-sized, utilitarian fowl with the belted plumage pattern of the Lakenvelder. The key difference in appearance would be the Vorwerk's dark golden base color, rather than the white of the Lakenvelder. Thus, his chicken is sometimes called the Golden Lakenvelder, especially in North America.[2] Breeds used to create the Vorwerk included the Lakenvelder, Buff Orpington, Buff Sussex and Andalusian. By 1913, the Vorwerk was standardized. However, it never really gained widespread use, and is rare or non-existent outside Continental Europe. [3]


Australia has three of those birds. I've not ever heard of a Ramelslohers and a quick browse seems to indicate it might be a very old breed that may no longer exist ...


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:59 pm 
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Rare Poultry Import Syndicate ... 2013??? I wonder if it may not be too late to ask the question?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:29 pm 
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I havent seen them but they could be recreated in Australia with a buff leghorn and a lakenvelder.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:54 pm 
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There are Lakenvelders in Australia??

Great news if there are ... I hadn't heard there were. I was looking for some.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:44 am 
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Hi,

Henk69 isa member on here he has Vorwerks in Holland i think he recreated them, you could ask him via PM which breeds he used?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:08 am 
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I didn't recreate them. I made a new color (white-buff-white).

You need their hackle black gene. It may be in indian game or barnevelder or in any black breed if you are lucky.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:49 am 
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Henk69 wrote:
I didn't recreate them. I made a new color (white-buff-white).

You need their hackle black gene. It may be in indian game or barnevelder or in any black breed if you are lucky.



How wonderful! Would love to see pictures!?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:18 pm 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:42 pm 
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No wonder I want some Vorwerks and Lakenvelders!

Great photos.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:57 pm 
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Lakenveldars are a striking fowl and I reckon they would have emerged by now if they ever were in Oz. Obviously they are a key ingredient in the make up of the Vorwerks. I suggest the only chance of them appearing in Oz would be via the import syndicate.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:40 pm 
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Lovely lovely birds - thanks for sharing Henk69. :thumbs:
Now about that import syndicate..... :bounce:
or do I have to move to Europe???!!!!!!!!!!! :| :shock:


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:13 pm 
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You do have the dark hackled wheaten based light sussex over there right?
They may have the correct hackle black. Switch to e^b. ;)

Lakenvelders are not popular by the way... :(


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