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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:17 pm 
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Sorry if this sounds like a strange question.

I have a partridge based gold duckwing hen that came out of a wheaten gold duckwing line, all the males I have are wheaten bred.

Will I get partridge chicks if I put her back to a wheaten bred cock?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:07 pm 
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Yes you should. You can not be shore untile you test mate. You need to mark the chicks as they hatch as the male chicks are very hard to tell if they were wheaton or partridge when in there adult feathers.
You have a better chance of getting the partridge chicks if you mate here back to here father as he is most likely to be carring the partridge. Senators.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:23 pm 
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Senators RR wrote:
Yes you should. You can not be shore untile you test mate. You need to mark the chicks as they hatch as the male chicks are very hard to tell if they were wheaton or partridge when in there adult feathers.
You have a better chance of getting the partridge chicks if you mate here back to here father as he is most likely to be carring the partridge. Senators.



Thanks mate, that was my thought too. I wasn't sure which would be dominate, partridge or wheaten, I suspect it would be wheaten, since she is one of the few partridge that has come out of the line.

My main problem is the father is dead, and the brother that I was keeping for that exact reason is now dead as well.

I might just have to breed her after we move and put her son back over her.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:33 pm 
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Sounds like that is all you can do. It would be fairly unlikely that you get more partridge from her mated to another less related wheaton cock. The line you have I think are dominant for wheaton were as my main line of reds are more dominant for partridge. It is a real strain thing as to which will be stronger in the offspring.

Some one else may have better insight into this.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:12 pm 
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drover,have you ever noticed the chickens having a bit of a stripe on them? Thats usually how ive seen them,with results of some wheaten breasted partridge (for lack of a better term)


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:05 pm 
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I have noticed a bit of a stripe on the wheaten chicks, they just seem to turn into a wheaten, as far as I know

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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 8:04 pm 
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drover wrote:
I have noticed a bit of a stripe on the wheaten chicks, they just seem to turn into a wheaten, as far as I know

These chicks might be carrying the partridge allele. Wheaten chicks I am familiar with (not sure if they are dominant or recessive wheaten, probably recessive) are yellow throughout without stripes.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:20 pm 
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Is there any way to tell between recessive and dominant wheatens? Other than test breeding.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:25 am 
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Look at the undercolour:

The recessive wheaten described by Morejohn (1953) has the typical wildtype dark undercolour, whereas the dominant wheaten subsequently described by Kimball (1960) is said to have white (or at least light) undercolour.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:09 am 
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Thanks Htul. So this applies to the hens also? And dark undercolour is a light ashy grey like in partridge (e+)?

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Yes, this should apply to both the hens and the cock birds: the dark undercolour was described as being identical to wildtype ('partridge')


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Well it seems i have both recessive and dominant wheaten in my flock. In addition to the undercolour, the recessives appear paler in body colour, while the dominants are redder. I wonder if this applies to all strains? I'll try and get some good pics if I can.

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Posters in here may be interested in looking at Shorty's photos of his chick in this topic: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=8026001

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