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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:06 pm 
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Hi All,

Here are two different 9 week old cockerel's combs that we had planned to cull due to numbers but I was interested in what peoples opinions were of where this would be considered in Wyandotte combs eg. bad, average, good. I believe these are better combs than the cockerel's we are thinking of keeping for next season (as we are putting shape as number one on the priority list) but it would be good to know what is classed as a good comb. We've seen the diagrams in the handbooks but we are trying to match it to a real life chicken to see what we need to be looking for.

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it is my understanding that the knobbly bits are called workings.

the second comb looks better than the first, as teh first has a slight crookedness to the leader (the skinny bit at the back).

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Prefer the first even with the crooked leader. The 2nd looks too hollow and narrow. They are really too young to make a final judgement.

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I agree with Denis there, the first comb is better, maybe a little heavy in the workings, but better than a hollow comb.
Our best boy has a hollow comb, so its not the worst thing, I would definately keep one if his type was good.
If it is a nice day tomorrow, i'll take a snap of some good combs and post them for you.

If you have a look here, this post has 4 of our boys combs, 3 are O.K and one is not so good, it has its leader long and pointing up and will end up being fairly coursely worked.
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There is a very good thread on PM on wyandotte combs, I think you will find the hollow fronts will not go away and a lot of judges dont like them.

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They are an interesting point Peter, I don't know so much about the bantams, but in the large, there seems to be so many fowls shown with bad combs.
We have a very successful breeder in our club, that doesn't worry about their combs, they have won all over the country.

I don't know whether, because their only worth 5 points of the total, that they consider them not important, but I find it hard to look past a bad one.

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I am pretty pleased with this comb. and it still looks good today.

Bad combed birds dont do very well in our area.

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I tend to agree with you Peter, bad combs dont fair that well down here either.
If you are breeding birds for show, you should be trying to improve everything up to the standard.
I know its not easy, but if you concentrate on one feature like color or lacing and not the overall bird, things tend to slip away further and that just makes it harder to correct in the long run.


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I personally think 9 weeks is too young to cull on that alone

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Thanks everyone!!! Those photos, links and comments will help my hubby tremendously!!

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Here's a few of our younger ones from this season, a few good and a few not so.

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Pullet comb

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Some not so good ones, leaders sticking up is the main fault with these.

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Hope that helps a little.

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A small point, the genetics of combs are generally polygenic (dependent on more than 1 gene)
but rising leaders have been found to be dominant over leaders that follow line of the skull.
Also in rosecombs the workings are effected by the He (from French for rough/coarse),
its presence can give an overworked comb,absence a very smooth comb.


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The sire that Fathered our line had a rising leader, not too high but not following the curve of the head, out of 200 odd chicks in his family, there are only a handful thatr have similar combs to his.
This generation are his Grandchildren and there are maybe 6 cockerels that have taken that comb.
I'm hoping to breed away from it.
Time will tell though if I am succeeding.

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