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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:48 pm 
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I've seen this term around... forever, but I have never worked out what it actually is. Can someone please explain what it is... with pics would be awesome.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:05 am 
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Vulture hocks is a term describing long, strong feathers growing straight back from the rear of the thigh just above the shank


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:08 am 
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Look at a Sultan. They are vulture hocked.

http://www.feathersite.com/Poultry/CGP/ ... ultan.html

Note the excessive feathers coming off the legs, like wings. That is vulture hocked


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:27 am 
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OK... do you think Araucana might have the potential to pass on vulture hocks when mixed with breeds with leg feathers?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:42 am 
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http://www.the-coop.org/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=94280

A very good read about vulture hocks and also a few links from the Coop

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:17 am 
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Thanks, J?

I actually just read that last night. If vulture hocks need leg feathering to be expressed then that means it can be carried by breeds with no leg feathering. I'm wondering whether araucana might carry it so if put with silkies, for example, who have leg feathering, might introduce it.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:11 pm 
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So.... are you trying to introduce vulture hocks into your aracaunas ?, and if so why ?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:47 am 
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No... I'm wanting to introduce lavender from Araucana to silkies and don't want to introduce vulture hocks into my silkies (don't own araucana yet... looking for a black silkie roo to kick things off still). You can't visually add vulture hocks to araucana as it appears to need leg feathering to be expressed but araucana might already carry it... which is what I'm asking.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:48 pm 
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OK , i would'nt think they would be carring thre gene unless another breed had been added to them somewhere.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:52 pm 
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Think in terms of belgians...........they def have vulture hocks. as for aracaunas i am not sure

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:21 pm 
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Ara's don't have feathered legs so the risk of adding the vulture feathering to the Silkies would be pretty low, from a breed point of view, I would have thought. Unless the potential for vulture hocks was there, dormant on the genome; but that could apply to any breed, so I wouldn't think the risk was any higher than using any other non-feathered-legged birds.

From an individual point of view - I guess all you can do is some test mating and see what happens!


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:27 pm 
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Unless the potential for vulture hocks was there, dormant


This is why I was asking. Maybe someone who had done araucana crosses with feather legged birds might have had vulture hocks turn up. I don't mind doing test crosses to see but I was torn between lavender pekins or lavender araucana to begin with. Lavender araucana are easier to find and my lavender pekin died of old age waiting for me to find a black silkie rooster. The pekins already have feathered legs but the araucana have the beard and the crest already.... so... I was going to give the araucana a go this time around if I can source a black silkie rooster.


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