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 Post subject: Re: Ayam Cemani project
PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:24 pm 
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Would love to see any current pictures of Cemani development in Australia !


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 4:06 pm 
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These are amazing as described "recreations". I've seen worse online described as pure.

As Cath said you should be proud of this as it is such a unique and difficult breed to undertake.

I asked Avgen to investigate this from UK which UK obviously has, but breeders were reluctant to have their flocks tested. So these will be very popular as alternative for fanciers here who can't get the real deal.

Keep going with the project sand try to get all the elements.

There are black Phoenix available in Australia. That would slim down your bird and give it some tail. However it won't be the long Phoenix tail as you wi find the no mault gene doesn't neccessary carry on xbreds.

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 Post subject: Re: Ayam Cemani project
PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 6:33 am 
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Hi from the USA,

That's great that you are trying to recreate the Ayam Cemani. Not a bad start either. You should try adding sumatra or other gypsy faced chooks to the mix and add an oriental game fowl like asil/aseel/, Thai, Ga noi(just not malay or indian games/cornish) to the mix as well for the body type. Old english game or pit games just doesn't have the right body type. The gypsy face genes cross with an already fibro bird like your silkie crosses above, will enhance the pigmentation even more in the offspring.

This is a young pullet I had, that resembles the Ayam cemani, but isn't one. She is single comb and fibro-melanistic though out. She is a fibro-melanistic bird with parentage origins from SE Asia(Laos).

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http://s1057.photobucket.com/user/sengt ... sort=3&o=0

Oh yeah, the male counter part is always the hardest to get good pigmentation on them. The female seems to carry the fibro genes better. But with selective breeding/culling and many generations, you can make the males just as dark as the females too.


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 Post subject: Re: Ayam Cemani project
PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:46 am 
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Wow, great job so far, keep it up! Was wondering a while back if anyone in Australia would attempt to recreate these. If your looking for a game breed to cross in for the gamier type, OEG in Dark Grey and other similar colours could be really useful as they are often gypsy faced, or Sumatras (if you can find them). Best of luck. Can't wait to see more pics.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:26 pm 
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