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 Post subject: Andalusian
PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:00 am 
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The Andalusian was once referred to as the Blue Minorca according to Storey's Illustrated Guide to Poultry Breeds. The breed is now referred to as the Andalusian for its namesake province, Andalusia. Accordign to the APS2 the earliest blue birds were self-coloured, with the lacing being subsequently developed as a feature of the breed. This was achieved by infusion of Minorca blood.

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The Spanish breeders that developed this old breed (reports from ancient Rome describe a very similar bird) found that crossing a black bird with one of its white sports (naturally occuring genetic mutations) would yield lovely slate blue feathers laced with darker blue. When mated together these slate blue birds show hybrid color characteristics. In other words, they produce offspring in the ratio of one black, two blues and one splash.

They sound as though they were a bit confused, but their 'white sports' must have been splash blues. The genetics are well known today by those breeding Andalusians.

They have an E/E or ER/ER base. To produce the final blue product including the lacing they need some more important genes - ar/ar S/S Bl/bl+ Co/Co Pg/Pg Ml/Ml.

Blue is incompletely dominant so you need one blue and one black - Bl/bl
Lacing is made by the combination of Ml, Co and Pg (commonly called the lacing group)
Bl/bl+ and Ml will result in the hackle (and saddle in male) being a very dark blue - sometimes almost black.
S/S is obviously the silver base

The lacing differentiates this colour from the other blue such as that of self blue breed varieties like the blue wyandotte.

I've taken this picture somewhere in the last few years. I can't remember where but it shows the lacing quite distinctly.

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This image by granpa shows the dark hackles and saddles that is a result of the Bl/bl+ and Ml (melanotic). The second one appears to have been dubbed which I understand can be helpful in improving mating behaviour and fertility in birds with overly large combs - especially as they get older.

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Also a photo by Ruff showing the contrasting hackle and saddle. You can also see the difference between the appearance of the male and the female easily here.

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The Standard according to APS2 (p30).

Male Characteristics:

Carriage: Upright, bold and active

Type: Body: long, broad at the shoulders, and tapering to the tail, with the plumage close and compact. Breast: full and round. Wings: long, well tucked-up and the ends covered by the saddle hackles. Tail: large and flowing, carried moderately high.

Head: moderately long, deep and inclined to width. Comb: single, upright and of medium size, deeply serrated with spikes broad at the base, the back portion slightly following the line of the the head but not touching the neck. Free from 'thumb marks' or side spikes. Eyes: prominent. Beak: stout and of medium length. Face: smooth. Earlobes: almond in shape, medium size, free from wrinkles and fitting closely to the face. Wattles: fine and long.

Neck: long and well covered with hackle feathers.

Legs and feet: Legs: long. Shanks and Feet free from feathers. Toes: four, straight and well spread.

Female Characteristics:

With the exception of the comb, which falls with a single fold to one side without covering the eye, the general characteristics are similar to those of the male, allowing for thenatural sexual differences.

Colour

Male and Female

Plumage: clear blue, with dark shaft desirable, edged with a distinct dark slate lacing that may appear almost black, not too narrow, on each feather, excepting the male's sickles, which are dark (or even black), and his hackles, which are black with a rich gloss, while the female's neck hackle is a rich lustrous black, showing broad lacing on the tips of the feathers at the base of the neck. Undercolour to tone with surface colour.

Beak: dark slate or horn. Eyes: dark red or red-brown. Comb, face and wattles: bright red. Earlobes: white. Shanks and feet: dark slate or black.

Weights

Fowls
Male: 3.20-3.60 kg (7-8 lb)
Female 2.25-2.70 kg (5-6 lb)

Bantams
Male 910-1020 g (32-36 oz)
Female 740-910 g (26-32 oz)

Scale of points

Carriage, type 20
Size 5
Head (comb, face, lobes, eyes, beak) 20
Legs and feet 5
Ground colour 20
Lacing 20
Condition and handling 10
Total 100

Disqualifications and Serious Defects
General and Serious Disqualifications as usual in the Standard
Addition Serious Defects for this Breed: In the male, excessive white in the face or presence of red in lobes. White feathers. Sooty ground colour. Red or yellow in hackles. Comb not upright. In the female, any of these points that apply, together with an upright comb.

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Andalusian hen that received Champion Rare Breed Award at the Lawnton Annual Show 2014.


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She's lovely.

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[i]A lot of Andalusians. Anconas in Standard and Bantam PB Black Leghorns in Standard
and Bantam, Derbyshire Redcaps, Light Sussex Bantams.
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That's my darling Rita! Typical of one of my lot - doesn't care about anything. They are all over handled and spoilt by me. Thank you for that and thank you to Lawnton Club for putting on a wonderful show. I still can't wipe the smile from my face :) :) :) Next year, it will be her daughters taking it out lol


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She did extremely well and is a gorgeous female.

The comb over one eye meant that she was oblivious to me at times. I have another video where I startled her a little when she realised I was there. It didn't bother her, just took her by surprise. She was pretty relaxed. Not like the black pekin that pecked me numerous times.

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 Post subject: Re: Andalusian
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Nice Andalusian, it is normally very hard to get champion or even reserve champion with a laced bird, especially with Andalusians. I have only done it once at the Wilmington (North of South Australia) show (years ago). Congrats.
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It's good to see rare breeds getting good results. Hopefully she'll breeds lot of good offspring. It isn't often you see Andalusians at shows at all.

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The surge is picking up in Victoria Cathy. Lots of chicks on the ground this year. Andies may well become more popular in the next few years. There's even rumours of a specialist Andalusian show in Victoria in 2015.

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[i]A lot of Andalusians. Anconas in Standard and Bantam PB Black Leghorns in Standard
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They have wide appeal because they have that amazing drawcard - they are blue!

I'm surprised more people don't keep mediterraneans because they are hardy, productive and do very well in our climate. I can see them continuing to gain in popularity with a little promotion.

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 Post subject: Re: Andalusian
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A very beautiful breed worthy of much more attention. Wishing all breeders of these Andies all the best for the future


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A breed that I have always admired.

Would also like to have a crack at breeding Lace Blue Wyandottes oneday.

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Andalusian Breeders/Exhibitors, lets get a list together of who & where we are.
I'll start
Ashy, Quorn, South Australia. - Only Andalusians at this time, trying to get some good bantams


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We only have one Blue Andalusian breeder listed in the BYP Directory here:

http://www.backyardpoultry.com/director ... s-373.html

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OK Cathy I will give it a go....Probably stuff it up though.
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