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 Post subject: Re: Barnevelders
PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 3:37 pm 
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Could anyone please post some fronts of 8/12wk old boys that are double laced. My silvers appear to be showing single laced and just need some clarification. Thanks!!


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 Post subject: Re: Barnevelders
PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:06 pm 
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Boys won't show double lacing and only the 'browns' are required to be double laced in the females. The Australian standards allow single or double lacing in the silvers. Blues are not in the Standards but are being developed in single and double laced.


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 Post subject: Re: Barnevelders
PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:48 pm 
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Thanks Sue, I wasn't sure, my big boys are all single laced on the chest except for the silver split gold, I can see double lacing on him. I'm trying to get my girls double laced (I really don't want single lacing) but not sure where to go at the moment?? All of my silver girls are single laced and all of the silver/gold girls are double, so I'm guessing the gold lacing is dominant to carry the double? And silver single. So frustrating when I don't know what I'm doing. Do I Try a double laced gold boy over my silver girls? Thanks again


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 Post subject: Re: Barnevelders
PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:01 pm 
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Don't know much (anything) about the genetics of dbl/sgl lacing. My dbl laced are fairly consistant. The blues are single but only have first generation hens from blue roo over dbl laced girls. I've bred them back to a dbl laced roo this year so will be interesting to see the outcome (if any). Also dbl laced hens back to the original blue roo. again. I'm also after dbl laced blues.
There's a theory that solid breasted (unlaced) males will produce better laced females (back to the eb V ewh 'battle') and it seems that these are not the only bases in the equation.


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 Post subject: Re: Barnevelders
PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:36 pm 
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Good luck with them. I think I've done the opposite, I've put a silver roo over the dbl gold hen. Then put a roo out of them back over the silver girls (hopefully in the incubator next week), I can't stand this roo he is so nasty I can't go in the pen unless I have a rake in hand and I am so over it. I've also put a silver roo over the silver/gold hens. They will go in the incubator after them. I'll just wait and see now. I look forward to some photos of your guys.


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 Post subject: Re: Barnevelders
PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:33 am 
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The difference between single and double lacing is the colombian gene. Pg/Pg, Ml/Ml makes double lacing.....add Co/Co and it turns to single lacing. Crossing a single to a double laced will give Pg/Pg, Ml/Ml, Co/co. You need to either cross them together and keep the double laced ones (co/co) or breed them back to a double laced to remove the last dose of Co in half of the offspring. Hope that helps.

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 Post subject: Re: Barnevelders
PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:25 am 
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Thanks Dotte - nice to hear you back
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I knew the process, just not what genes were involved - thanks.

Still planning to look at the other site - sent an email ages ago but got no response. Still waiting for #1 son to have a spare moment (or hours) to help me with cyberspace.


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 Post subject: Re: Barnevelders
PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 7:53 pm 
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Thank you both for your replies, very much appreciated. Now to figure out where to go from here.


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 Post subject: Re: Barnevelders
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:15 pm 
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Here are some pics of this years breeding pen. The lacing on my Blue Barnevelders is showing some double but still has a long way to go. Legs are a better colour than the pics show and egg colour has greatly improved - progress in several directions. I'm also getting some nice type
Out of 8 hens, 6 or 7 eggs a day. I have hatched chicks from the Dark Laced rooster, eggs from the Blue currently hatching and about to set another batch of Dark Laced.


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 Post subject: Re: Barnevelders
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There tends to be a difference between the longer, more lean shape of the utility lines and the more curvaceous shape of those bred to the Standards - which is what I am aiming for


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 Post subject: Re: Barnevelders
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:18 am 
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Love your blue laced roo , sue he is a beauty, your blue laced barnies are great, still have a long way to go with my blr bantam wyandottes to get to that level :whist .


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 Post subject: Re: Barnevelders
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:09 am 
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Thanks mycoola, Adam's (blue roo) wings are a little dropped but he does sometimes carry them higher - I think he has 'lazy wing syndrome' :biggrin:


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 Post subject: Re: Barnevelders
PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 2:52 pm 
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Here are some of this seasons Dbl Laced girls - some tails still filling out.
I'm really happy with leg colour although some is possibly dietary. Some duskiness but the yellow is coming along nicely.
Lacing is sharpening up but still struggling with shafting

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