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 Post subject: Re: New project?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:40 pm 
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I actually did get a spangled rooster from my Araucana crossbreeds - he would have made a reasonable starter for an Orloff program.

Except I ate him :)

You can see a list of breeds currently considered rare here: http://www.rarepoultrybreedersassociation.com/about-us.html


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:02 pm 
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'Saving' or recreating a breed that is almost or completely 'extinct' just for the sake of saving it, doesn't hold much appeal to me. If it has some value to me, for utility or aesthetic reasons, then that's different. We have such variety in poultry (and dogs or whatever else) specifically because people didn't just try to keep the old breeds going.
If you don't want to create a new breed I vote for creating a new color or variety in an existing, preferably popular breed, or a variety of a less popular breed that might make it more popular.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:00 pm 
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I agree Sash.
Saving a breed just for the sake of saving it probably isn't going to work.
I like the rare breed I keep for quite a few reasons including the fact that they lay well. The sentimental historical connection is just part of the appeal as is the buzz of having something that is not in every other yard.
Maybe one day the wheel will turn for my breed and they will be fashionable again.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:06 pm 
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With the foodie trend away from tasteless 6 week old cage style meat chicken.

Would some sort of improved free range meat/dual purpose chicken be interesting?

What interests you is a personal thing


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:04 pm 
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how about creating a bird that is/looks like a lakenvelder or a vorwerk :read :globe or I seen a pic somewhere of a hen that looked like a palomino horse that had light golden buff body and white hackles and tails,that would be a chooken I would buy,the vorwerks remind me of a buckskin,i know theres always buff sussex but they don't have that crisp colour like the vors have :laughing

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 Post subject: Re: New project?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:14 pm 
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klw wrote:
how about creating a bird that is/looks like a lakenvelder or a vorwerk :read :globe or I seen a pic somewhere of a hen that looked like a palomino horse that had light golden buff body and white hackles and tails,that would be a chooken I would buy,the vorwerks remind me of a buckskin,i know theres always buff sussex but they don't have that crisp colour like the vors have :laughing


Vorwerk and lakenvelder were imported recently, will be available next year I believe.


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 Post subject: Re: New project?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:44 pm 
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How about the Pavlovskaja, they are so funny looking, I love it. The chicks look like they are wearing hairy little britches, it's so cute!

http://www.feathersite.com/Poultry/CGP/ ... avlov.html

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The problem with loosing an old breed is that we don't even know WHAT we are losing.
Like they recently found that Croad Langshan carry a gene which makes them resistant to Marek's disease.

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 Post subject: Re: New project?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:56 pm 
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globi wrote:
The problem with loosing an old breed is that we don't even know WHAT we are losing.
Like they recently found that Croad Langshan carry a gene which makes them resistant to Marek's disease.


I suppose the issue may be how common is the gene in this group of chickens and how rare the gene is in other groups.

Genetic diversity is a important thing but aren't show/pedigree chickens about breeding to a type/standard so genetic diversity can be reduced in these breeds.


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 Post subject: Re: New project?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:34 pm 
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petanque wrote:

Genetic diversity is a important thing but aren't show/pedigree chickens about breeding to a type/standard so genetic diversity can be reduced in these breeds.


I think different considerations apply with breeds where the gene pool has become reduced.
With my breed I am happy to breed representative pure bred specimens. This season I flock mated five cockerels with twenty odd females and will not cull heavily for type.


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 Post subject: Re: New project?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:18 pm 
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It seems that some Chinese breeds have the gene, European breeds don't have it. Some Chinese breeds don't have it either (Silkies).

We still know so little!

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How about the Booted Bantam? We have the Belgian bantams here, but not their predecessor. (And I'm looking for someone to do the hard work for me, I don't know enough to be able to create them for myself ;-))


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If you could produce a flock Chamois Campine I think they would look quite good.

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http://www.feathersite.com/Poultry/CGA/Camp/BRKCampine.html


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:53 pm 
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oh wow - they are stunning! But I DO love the Pavlovskaja!

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 Post subject: Re: New project?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:27 pm 
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They look a lot like Friesian`s

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