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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:05 pm 
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I have soe sort of disease in my flock the chickens have small black marks on there crests the health of the chickens seems normal besides that i dont know what the diesease is yet is it safe to eat eggs and meat from chickens with fowl pox or other related diseases??

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:53 pm 
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I do not know the answer to your question but if it was me I would be taken at lest one chicken to a vet and getting a positive id to the illness before I ate anything.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:55 pm 
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I wouldn't eat a chook that died or was put down due to disease - I'd even be wary of killing them for pet meat. Assuming they're still healthy enough to lay an egg, the eggs _probably_ are ok but a sick chook will go off the lay pretty quickly.

I would post up a list of your chooks' symptoms in the Good Samaritan section and get it confirmed and, if they're sick, treated.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:54 am 
I agree with rum pig 100%.
No way would i risk my own health over an egg. I'd have a piece of toast for breakfast instead.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:33 am 
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Eating anything that is sick or diseased is unappealing anyway, so I wouldn't.

The CSIRO publish a guide for disposition of birds with particular diseases or conditions. Here's my interpretation, but you can find the whole thing online if you wish. Obviously a commercial setting is a bit different, but I still found it interesting. You can find the pdf download here: http://www.publish.csiro.au/pid/5203.htm This table starts at page 52 (Appendix B).

emaciated birds - pet food only
tumours, organ problems, ascites, egg peritonitis - condemn the carcase
liver conditions - condemn
infection in a limb - condemn the limb
systemic infection - condemn the carcase
breast blister or minor trauma - trim, carcase still ok
toxaemia, septicaemia - condemn the carcase
minor bruising - trim, still ok
major bruising - condemn the carcase
fibrinous deposits on heart or liver (CRD, E.coli, Toxaemia, septicaemia - Condemn organs as unfit for human consumption
Extensive lesions from Toxaemia/Septicaemia - condemn carcase
Intestinal worms - condemn organs
Extensive haemorrhages - condemn carcase
Tumours/Nodules - localised due to MD, LL, Other - trim affected part, and pass remainder for human consumption
Tumours/Nodules - multiple and extensive from MD, LL, Other - condemn carcase
Wounds with no systemic involvement - trim and pass

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:29 am 
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That is a VERY useful list - thank you! Maybe it needs a new sticky in Good Sammy?

What about eggs from chooks with (say) fowlpox? Is there any chance of something ending up in the egg that humans shouldn't eat? Is my brain wrong in trying to link knowledge that some vaccines are created in eggs with the potential for a zoonotic transfer from chooks to human?

Hmmm ... fowl pox isn't transferrable from chook to human. Looks like my brain IS wrong. Bad brain!! (More coffee needed. I'm talking to my brain).


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:44 am 
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I expect fowlpox is not on the list because it's not a problem for broilers. They are all vaccinated and kept inside.

The problem with home grown birds is that we don't usually have definitive diagnoses. We are only having a best guess. If it's in doubt - chuck it out.

If fowl pox is going through any flock, I would just wait a few weeks for it to pass, then give time for them to recondition before slaughter.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:47 am 
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Info, I like how your brain works...... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:52 am 
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I've put a link in the A-Z Index. The CSIRO pdf cannot be edited or copied. Info if you wish to take the information, summarise/sort it and publish it in a useful way in a post in Good Sammy, then I will sticky it for you.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:11 am 
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I'll just add the task to the list, shall I? :)

I've downloaded the doco and will read it this evening. Or over lunch (bound to be a lovely one).


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:19 am 
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Why not? Or save it for a rainy day when the list isn't quite as long. :thumbs:

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:05 pm 
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Are the black spots just scratches and peck marks etc.


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