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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:33 pm 
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i saw this amazing flower on byp last March and fell in love with it.
it is in the thread: What's flowering in the garden?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:15 pm 
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i recently remembered that it was coming up a year ago that i had seen this beauty and i asked lucky 992 if they had any coming up to flower now; so that i could get to see some different stages of the bulb from start to flower.

i got lucky, as lucky 992 had documented the flowering last year and kindly sent me through some photos to satisfy my thirst for knowledge and gave permission for me to put them up here for all to see.

starting off the bulb shoots.Image
josephine lily takes a bold form early on.Image
it grows to 65cm high.Image
each of the tiny twigs develops a flower.Image
each flower is perfect.Image
so many tiny perfect flowers.Image
it grows to a width of 45cm.
my bad; it grows to 90cm across. Image
incredibly sculptural form.Image
after flowering an agave-like set of leaves grow in, until it goes dormant for a rest.Image
thank you lucky 992 for letting me share this amazing plant!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:22 pm 
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Wow :shock:

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:51 pm 
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does anyone else here have this plant?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:27 pm 
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There is one at a Tasmanian nursery, don't know whether they sell it as corms or bulbs or seeds - might be worth a phone call, they have some collectors item rare bulbs:
http://hillviewrareplants.com.au/rambli ... d-her-lily
Their dragon lily in the plant photos - amazing thing also.

I bought some super rare lilies last year at a country market, I'd never track down the growers again, but anyway the sheep et em so I am ticked off at my carelessness re closing gates. Another rare one is I think only found at Glen Harrow in Belgrave, it's not exactly an open garden so they are seldom seen: from the Trees Adventure website: "Himalayan Lily (Cardiocrymun Gigantium) If you are lucky you might catch sight of the mysterious lily brought to Glen Harrow in the 1940s. The lily takes seven years to flower and naturally proliferates in only two known places in the world – the foothills of the Himalayas and Glen Harrow. The last proliferating lily was thought to have been dug up in the 1990s however, individual plants have once again been seen, although it is not yet known if they will continue the rare practice of proliferating."

I'm going to follow up to see if they actually flower in the next couple of years, I did see some fairly well established new growth ones in their forest about three years ago.

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Spectacular.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:26 pm 
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i like it so much, i bought it.
don't tell bloke 'cause i don't think he would understand.
maybe he would get it - we have been together forever.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:45 pm 
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Fantastic!!
We need more detail.
From whence did you purchase it?
Could you really afford it?
Could any of the rest of us afford it?
Did they have any more available?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 7:07 pm 
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@Grabby

"i like it so much, i bought it."

Well done :thumbs: ....... Once it flowers, your Januarys and Februarys will never be the same!

or......., this time of year, did you buy one in flower?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:08 pm 
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i haven't gotten my order yet but it has been posted.
they said it is 4 years old; i will have to wait a fair while to get a flower of my own. i ordered from http://www.roraimanursery.com.au/sales/and i think they had a couple left.

i am a bit excited to have the chance of growing such a lovely flower, eventually.
do you have any tips for when i plant her up lucky 992?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:13 pm 
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PossumCorner wrote:
I bought some super rare lilies last year at a country market, I'd never track down the growers again, but anyway the sheep ate 'em so I am ticked off at my carelessness re closing gates.
this makes me think i will have to make sure mine is not anywhere that our donkeys can get at them.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:44 pm 
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Grabby yummo, had never come across Roraima - their newsletters are full of tempting unusuals - have to sit on my hands, not enough water to keep what is here going til we have a new tank or two. But small world, there is a lovely Josephine Lily on the Bendigo gardeners group page. I am slowly having to admit that fbook has its place (other than the one I felt it should be consigned to).

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:29 pm 
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Hi Grabby,
Did yours come bare rooted or potted?
I just wait until the leaves die back completely. With a mature plant you need to let the leaves die back but then, transplant immediately, before the flower shoots.
They seem to be doing something all year round.
The root system is interesting. Each one is like a single strand of spaghetti but of course there a lot of them and not thick like a rhizome type, and they are all intermingled (Sorry I don't know the correct term for it.) so carefully loosen the soil very well before you try to pull it out. I sort of let it fall out of the soil. Does that make sense?
Then hold the bulb in the new pot at the desired level and try and add the potting mix while keeping the roots in the original shape. This takes a bit of doing as you can imagine. Poke it in carefully with your fingers until the root mass is as solid as you can get it.
If you are going to keep it in a pot forever, then start with a very large one as they don't like being moved or mucked about with..... so at least 500mm
Often after you re-pot, they wont flower the next year.
If you move house it probably wont flower the next year. etc.
Now days if I move them I keep them facing the same way as where they originally were. ie note where north is before you move it.
These little things seem to give better results for me anyway.
I add a little potash from the fire once a year towards the end of winter as well but don't go overboard.


Funnily enough, even though they sound a bit fussy, once you get them settled in they don't need much attention.
They like the winter rain and the dry summers, here at least, and thrive on being left alone.
If I am going by with the hose in the summer I might give it a drink, but its not something you need to do regularly.

Once mature, anything over 40 (are they called pedicles?) stems with the flowers on them, tells you that it is happy, and by then you will get seed in the pods at the top of each stem.

Wallabies nor chooks nor ducks eat ours but I cant speak for donkeys......

Are we going to get to see a photo of your new baby.......
A bit like getting new chickens isn't it....... good thing they don't need 10-14 years before the start laying. ha ha!
If it is four years old and is doing well it might have 6-8 leaves.
Normally, they get two more each year when they are young.
Hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:18 am 
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lucky 992 wrote:
Each one is like a single strand of spaghetti but of course there a lot of them and not thick like a rhizome type, and they are all intermingled. so carefully loosen the soil very well before you try to pull it out. I sort of let it fall out of the soil. Does that make sense?
Then hold the bulb in the new pot at the desired level and try and add the potting mix while keeping the roots in the original shape. This takes a bit of doing as you can imagine. Poke it in carefully with your fingers until the root mass is as solid as you can get it.

thanks Lucky for the great steps to follow, i can't wait to get onto potting.

yesterday, i had a card in the mailbox and thought it was here but nooo it was another item that i cared less about arriving. so any time now Post Office people.
yes, i am going to put some photos up.

with the potting mix; i generally buy a cheap one and use compost and old poop then mix it up and use that but i am going to town today, so could buy a premium potting mix.

should i bite the bullet and get a bulb or fancy type potting mix?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:40 pm 
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When you see photos of the bulbs in the wild in Africa the soil looks fairly ordinary, so may be just don't over do it with the nitrogen.
Over a few years we tried numerous mixtures of red soil, compost, gravel, our crap clay soil etc. The good quality potting mix has come out the best so far.
I don't do much flower gardening as a rule, these bulbs just intrigued me.
Do we have any bulb experts on the forums?

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