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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:24 pm 
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Hi i had a debate with a guy the other day that muscovies are not a duck but a goose. I know that they are different to the rest of ducks coming from mallards but I didn't think that they were a goose. Also he said that if they mate with a mallard type duck that their offspring can reproduce but not their grandchildren. please explain, this person has been a breeder for a long time and i struggled to believe what he was saying. If muscovies are a type of goose why do they never cross?


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Muscovies are ducks. They are a specie in their own right from South America. They have similar charistics to geese, which make them very similar and has lead to this widespread belief that they are geese, but alas, they are ducks.

In regards to breeding, the first cross from a mallard to a muscovy is a mule (sterile) and can not reproduce. They are good meat birds, but useless for anything else.

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I read where Muscovy ducks are the only breed that doesn't have mallard in their genes. That this is why the off spring are sterile.

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I agree. I will need to check but i think i read somewhere that Muscovies were more closely related to most species of geese and hence probably should be grouped with them rather than ducks.

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Muscovies are a breed of their own.

As Muscovies are NOT derived from Mallard stock, they have a different species category, so when they cross breed their offspring are sterile. Much the same as crossing a Horse with a Donkey.

Mule ducks are not always good meat ducks (as I learnt this weekend) as the outer cross (mallard derived) are a lighter weight breed which lowers the weight gain and production of the mule.

As far as I see it, if you want to relate Muscovies to a specific species other than their own, you may aswell call Guinea Fowl, Chickens. 8)

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:35 pm 
This old chestnut, a muscovy is NOT a goose, they only have simpler characteristics as a goose or swan.

Traditionally, most ducks were assigned to either the shelducks, perching , dabbling and diving ducks.

Mallards are dabbling ducks and Muscovies are perching ducks. So therefore they can mate but produce Mullard ducks or “muleâ€


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