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 Post subject: Sebastopol Geese
PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:58 pm 
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Well today we went over to our next door neighbours and we came back with 3 Sevastopol geese :shock:

I'm pretty sure they are cross bred with some thing because only 2 have curly feathers the other has very slight curls but nothing to get excited about and 2 also have a bit of color black and brown?

they were rescued from the Wangaratta show a few years ago as Goslings and her daughter hand raised them and they are really tame and will squat in the corner and wait for you to pick them up it's really cute :D , i just love them not to sure about the muscovys though they don't seem to be ok with a bigger bird in with them :lol:

If anyone knows what they are crossed with or what sex they are that would be most helpful (the lady thinks they are all female but i for got to ask if they'd layed before)


So hear they are

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all info would be much appreciated

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 Post subject: Re: Sebastopol Geese
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Nothing much to offer in the way of info, except they are lovely! You are right - they are probably crosses, but beautiful anyway. Lucky you.

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 Post subject: Re: Sebastopol Geese
PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:29 pm 
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thanks NellyG

i don't intend on breeding geese of any kind but these three can stay and be pets there really great

I'd also like to know will they lay (if they are girls anyway) with out a male like ducks or do they have to be with a boy?

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 Post subject: Re: Sebastopol Geese
PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:41 pm 
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Saxascovy, don't know a lot about geese but agree, they don't look "purebred" from pics I have seen. Not sure if Sebs come in colours other than white?? Always possible though that they are pure but exhibiting more toward the normal feathering phenotype??

Whatever, they are lovely looking birds :P

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 Post subject: Re: Sebastopol Geese
PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:45 pm 
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Hi David

They are X breeds, but no realy way of knowing with what.

They will lay without a male - remember geese lay every second day.

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 Post subject: Re: Sebastopol Geese
PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:48 pm 
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i never knew they only lay every second day, well you learn something new every day :D

thanks for the replies everyone

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 Post subject: Re: Sebastopol Geese
PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:27 pm 
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Yes David, you do learn something everyday. Keep up the good work :P


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 Post subject: Re: Sebastopol Geese
PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:32 pm 
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rollyard wrote:
Not sure if Sebs come in colours other than white??


In Australia only the White is recognised and only one exhibition type

Overseas, there are two types "Smooth Chest" and "Rough Chest"

Colours:
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Grey
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Buff Saddle back

I have both white and grey.


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 Post subject: Re: Sebastopol Geese
PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:41 pm 
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These girls are MUMS if anyone is asking ok? :lol: Dad detested the idea that David (or I) get geese in any shape or form, but he tolerated the fact that MUM took an interest in them and eventually admitted that she thought they were "gorgeous" :)

So now MUM as some geese....David and I just look after them for her....

Nick :wink:

PS - they are pretty cute the way they like a cuddle :oops:

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 Post subject: Re: Sebastopol Geese
PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:44 pm 
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Tell your Mum she has lovely geese :lol: :lol: :)


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 Post subject: Re: Sebastopol Geese
PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:27 pm 
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ill have to come over to see them. they sound and look so cute!! :D

might seem like a stupid question, but i need to ask it, do sebastopol have the same sort of recesive gene as frizzles, like how a certain amount come out with straight feathers?

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 Post subject: Re: Sebastopol Geese
PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:35 am 
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No, not the same, you mate Sebastopol to Sebastopol, where each are "curly", there is no sure thing as a "straight" feathered Sebastopol.

You can get different degrees of curl, from over curls thru to under curls. The curled feathers are very fragile so a over curled birds feather get damaged more and do not look as nice as long.

The so called "smooth breast" Sebastopol have less curls and lack the "look" of a Sebastopol, but as still "fully" blood Sebastopol.

So the mating of a over curl to a under curl "smooth breasted", you get a bird that will last long for exhibition that is all. Its feathers will last long.

With colour, the damaged feathers are less noticeable on the white, as for the grays, they look "ratty" all the time and do not present well, for this reason there are not kept for exhibition.

My two grey Sebastopols as "fully" blood Sebastopol as they came from two pure white parents, which normally produce white only. But last season (2007/2008) they produced two lovely girls.

IF someone tells you that you have a "straight" feathered Sebastopol, what you have is a cross breed, or some people call them "Ribbon" geese. These geese seem to only carry the curl on they shoulder and breast patches and none or very little in the wings. A true Sebastopol must have full curled wing feathers. Thus unable to fly, this is referred to as a "half wing". Ribbon geese curled feather seem to last longer than the Sebastopol, so remain "pretty" for longer, they also seem cleaner, as normal feathers can be cleaned, were curled feathers are hard to clean.

So to "hijack" your thread with this opinion, but back to your birds. I would have them in my flock (as I do) Ribbon goose or Sebastopol how cares, they are different to the "norm". And will look great. First it was Muscovies now it is geese, yes another person converted to "wet chooks" (Waterfowl) :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


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 Post subject: Re: Sebastopol Geese
PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:17 am 
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Well that's pretty cool. Genetics are confusing but they way you explained it I actually understood :lol:

So you're using these as "egg layers" LOL. Well that'd be one massive omlette.
I so bags an egg so I can try cooking it or with it. :biggrin:

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 Post subject: Re: Sebastopol Geese
PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:59 am 
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i must say those geese are very lovely. ,i always wanted to have a goose in my house, i live in a city, my question is do these geese really makes loud noise? or is there a known surgical procedure done by vet. to minimize the loudness of it's crow.(?) i'm in love with the tallouse geese.i'd like to have one. what is the minimum number of geese that i can order from a farm for shipping? any insight?


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 Post subject: Re: Sebastopol Geese
PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:42 pm 
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Hi - Geese are social and need at least 1 friend.

They honk (not a crow) and it can easily travel 1km on a still night. I can hear mine from my brothers house about 1.5kms up the valley.

They are not suitable for suburban areas, not enough space. To my knowledge there is no surgical method of stopping them from honking. It would be cruel if there was. I believe the RSPCA would not allow something like this.

The Toulouse geese are HUGE - and definitely could not be kept in a small backyard.

Mabey look at getting some large ducks instead - like rouens or pekins or the 'silent' Muscovy.

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