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 Post subject: Rouen Clair Ducks
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 11:16 pm 
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Could anyone tell me a little about rouen clair ducks. I have a pair here in Tassie, I know no-one else with them. they are very true to type with good colour, semi upright stance, forage well, quiet and all things that they should be except they are too small.I did try crossing with rouen but this has not increased there size and I don't want cross-bred ducks. the pure ones, when dressed weigh max. 2 kgs. Can't get them any bigger. coukldn't get the rouens to dress out any heavier either. Stretched out at 31 1/2 inches, they are supposed to stretch to 35 inches.


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 Post subject: Re: Rouen Clair Ducks
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 3:47 pm 
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2 kg dressed would be around the 3 kg live which is at the lower end of the size range . Be careful using Rouen because of keel issues . Being close just select and breed from your larger birds . If you use Saxony or the likes to get size up, you risk the eye line . Good luck


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Martin Holmes wrote:
. If you use Saxony or the likes to get size up, you risk the eye line . Good luck


what do you mean by "risk the eye line"?

bitch, we breed RC's up here in Queensland, ducks should weigh 2.9-3.4kg and drakes 3.4-4.1kg. type and wieghts for Rc's, Saxony's and large silver appleyards are almost identicle. if you've got your head around colour genetics? you should be able to work out how to use the above breeds. we've used both the saxony and apple with our RC's and have got pleasing results, depending what you use you'll also produce blue versions of the RC and Apple, which are nice to look at.

again if you under stand genetics you could use a large pekin type white bird, this would introduce recessive white, not ideal, but just like any gene can be breed out.


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here are some pics to give you an idea of what we're playing around with, all the birds in the following pics have come about by firstly crossing an RC with a Saxony, and then using the young, havent used the silver appleyard or any other bird to create this group.

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group pic of light phase birds, poor angle as the lights bad in this pic, but does give an idea of size and type.
young RC drake front right, back centre young RC duck, middle left Blue RC(blue Clair) Drake, middle right behind RC drake is a Blue Clair duck and that leaves an average saxony female in about the middle of the group

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young drake, at 17 weeks old, needs another week or so to be fully feathered in first adult colours, young duck behind

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same 2 birds as previous pic, whats left of the white on the chest of the female will disappear over the next week or so, the drakes head will improve to a solid green over the same time.


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this is the drake used to produce all but the saxony in the above pics, have used a 5 litre bottle as a refferance for size, he's not perfect, and only pushes the scales to 3kg, he is free ranged and forced to find most of his food, i'm sure if we locked him up and feed him well it wouldn't take too long to get him into the lower end of the recomended wieght range.
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RnBs WATERFOWL wrote:
Martin Holmes wrote:
. If you use Saxony or the likes to get size up, you risk the eye line . Good luck


what do you mean by "risk the eye line"?

You are right :roll: Saxony was a poor example was thinking more Appleyard ( in the drakes )


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young drake, at 17 weeks old,

SOLID boy for 17 weeks! :shock:

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Thanks for all the photos, etc. I struggle with the eye line now. The eyebrow is good and strong in all my birds, but the line that runs to the bill is missing or very pale in most of my ducks. I will have to do something though if I want to do any good with them at the shows. I must confess I am very loathe to add another breed as I see this as taking away from the pure line. I am not aware of any other rouen clair about, therefore I have no other to improve what I have.

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young drake, at 17 weeks old,

SOLID boy for 17 weeks! :shock:


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bitch wrote:
Thanks for all the photos,.


any chance you could post a couple of pics of your birds?


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have just put two photos up in the gallery. This simple thing of getting them into a post, I haven't worked out yet!

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Bitch, as there's nothing i can use to judge size in the pics, i can only base judgement on type, pattern and colour, they're as good as they come :thumbs: close to picture perfect for me, i have just one question regarding the drake, is the neck ring complete or broken, looks like it widens at the rear?

if you wish to keep the line pure and untouched, then do so, but theres no harm in playing around creating another line on the side.

i'd be interested in purchasing some eggs from those birds pictured should you have any spare


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 Post subject: Re: Rouen Clair Ducks
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The neck ring on the drake does go right round, but at the back it is not as strong, having a flicker of other colour showing for about half an inch or so. So, yes it does go right round, but not as a solid well defined ring.

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 Post subject: Re: Rouen Clair Ducks
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I presume the neck ring should not go right round. Also I will take a photo with a bucket or something next to them tomorrow some time

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