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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:17 pm 
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Ok, without the worlds most powerful torch how do you check the fertility of geese eggs?
I have some that are in a home made incubator and due to hatch. I'm pretty sure I've toasted them however :cry: and would like to know for future reference how to check them.
I've heard of putting them in a bowl of water......live ones bob, the others sink!?!
How do you do it?


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Exactly the same as a chook egg, the torch does not need to be any brighter. You will be able to tell depending at what stage they are at, you will see spider webs of red viens - dark shadows.

You can see a lot more in a goose egg than a chook egg.

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I don't even get the faintest hint of light coming through the egg. It's like candling a concrete block!

I can candle chook and duck eggs easily....


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If it is solid balck = gosling close to hatching, shine tyhe light at the blunt end, and see how much of an air bubble there is.

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 Post subject: Re: Candling geese eggs
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schnapper wrote:
I'm pretty sure I've toasted them however :
Schnapper, By this ,do you mean that the eggs were overheated? If in fact this is the case and the heat was significant ,the gosling and the remaining egg content would have cooked and will show as completely dark on candling . You have a couple of choices ,break 1 egg and check ,or leave them all in for a few more days to see if any hatch . The egg floating in warm water ONLY works (movement ) when chicks is alive and moving . I think you have cooked the eggs , and as such the remaining white solidifies . (check a hard boiled egg by candling ,you'll get same result) You would need signifcant temp > 60 deg C to cook them ,even over a few hours.


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There is no light coming through the egg anywhere!
The shell is like 3mm thick (according to someone that ate one when she first started laying). I'm using a 9v Dolphin torch with a piece of card with a 20c size hole in it. Works beautifully with chook and duck eggs (12 eggs in second incubator = 100% fertile) :D .

It's now 33 days so I'm sure I've cooked the 3 eggs in question.

She's sitting on another 7 due in the next few days so if that goes well I won't bother putting some in the incubator next year.


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For a super bright candling "torch" cut a 1cm hole in a piece of cardboard then cover an inverted desk lamp with a 60W light bulb in it. Hold the egg and move it over the 1cm hole of light and see if there's any movement.

I use an electric candling torch that is consistently very bright but does get hot.

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 Post subject: Re: Candling geese eggs
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Martin Holmes wrote:
Schnapper, By this ,do you mean that the eggs were overheated?.


They're in a home made incubator.
Apart from the humidity probably being all wrong, a few times the temperature has fluctuated into the 40s. I've since hired a real incubator for my other eggs and will be purchasing one when my finances are a little less dire. :roll:

I guess I'll crack an egg and see what it tells me....


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Well that was depressing! :cry:

One egg was barren, but the other two had almost fully developed embryos/goslings, feathers and all.

Guess it doesn't matter now wether it was the humidity or the fluctuating temperature. Suffice to say I'll be decomissioning the home made bator.

I think I'll leave the ducks and geese to do their own thing every year and buy a real incubator for the chooks and possibly peahen eggs (yet to see if she's a good mother).

Thanks for the advice everyone.


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 Post subject: Re: Candling geese eggs
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I am sorry - but from your description i cant tell what it is.

Day 10 is still early for a goose egg to be showing much at all due to the thickness of the shell. Wait for a few more days.

If you are in AUS, it is highly unlikely that they will be fertile at this time of year. Goose eggs are very hard to artificially incubate - much better under mum.

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 Post subject: Re: Candling geese eggs
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I have the same problem Schnapper! :roll:
I cann never get through the goose egg!! the torch cannot shine through it I find.
I can see through duck and chook eggs with the torch you use. (dunnow bout muscovys as I don't have them :shock: ), but goose eggs I usually find myself cracking them to do the candling and it is always a dissapointment, as I tend to find things and crack things I shouldn't :cry: , all because I cannot see through this thick hard shell with the same torch you have schnapper.
Pefowl eggs I can usually see ok.
Geese not at all! Gr and :( .....

Perhaps i need a new method, as It seems I am doing it wrong, and is not good.

Cheers, :bolt:


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 Post subject: Re: Candling geese eggs
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I can't candle for the life of me so I await the surprise at day 21. :lol:

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i found if you candle them i 10 days you can see the veins :grouphug: :grouphug:

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 Post subject: Re: Candling geese eggs
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you have got too keep you humidity at the right temp othe wise htey stick to the egg but i found tha if you put a plant pot with a torch under neath the pot and sit in a dark room and candle the egg it is much better but you have to get a good torch otherwise the other ones a bearly good for in the dark soo i think that you should buy a good torch soo i think you should try with the goose eggs again

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