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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:24 am 
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Hi all im wondering what other colours mussies come in not interested in whjat the show standard will allow but what acutal colour you can get?
The lady im getting my baby mussies from said she has some coloured ones and that they have shown up in hatches 3 yrs in a row.
Someone told her that they are throwbacks to something else and therefore cannot breed?
I wouyld think if that was the case the parents wouldnt be able to breed?
Seeing its only some of the ducklings that have the differant colouring?

Any help would be good

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No idea about the colours. I am a newbie too.

But I fear that Muzzies are addictive.
And you are starting to show clinical signs.

Thoughts about colour availability and plans to breed are just the beginning of a dangerous habit.
A habit that could lead to the need for more pens and eventually a truck to take home all your purchases at poultry auctions.

Don't say you haven't been warned! :P

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lol i think your right! :D
Problem is hubby said "get these too older ones and the 3 babies you ordered WITHOUT tlling me and thats it!, or i quit!" :!:
I guess that means i will get divorced :? :shock:
I just wanted to know colours because the coloured ones sound interesting and seeing we already have a black one and a white one the differant colours would help the id process for the kids :wink: and not to mention a good look about my yard :D

Oh i fear i will be a lonely old woman with ducks if im not careful...oh well i'll be in good company :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Hi I have three colours in my muzzies. I have white, white & black, bronze or black & white, blue & white and one duckling I think will be blue & white.
I am not sure what other colours there are. My black or bronze is not sterile neither is the blue boy.
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Happyhenz wrote:
Oh i fear i will be a lonely old woman with ducks if im not careful...oh well i'll be in good company :lol: :lol: :lol:

Some people have the theory that the more birds they have the more difficult it is to tell when there are new ones!

My kids would have to blab as soon as dad walked in the door. :roll:

However, I have found that if you breed them yourself it is easier to acquire more birds by stealth. :wink:

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:lol: my kids blab too!

Somedays i could march an elephant thru the house and no one would notice but others 2 more flies than usual can be detected :lol:

I do have a limit and seeing i re-homed some chooks i rescued i do have room for a couple of ducks or ...more :wink:

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In Australia there are currently (that i have seen/know of)

White
Black
Bronze
Lavender
Blue
Gun Metal (dark grey/blue)
Chocolate
Paler than lavender - just like a tint
cukoo ish colour but i have never seen it as a pure colour.
Have heard of buff but never seen.

All of the above will come in a pure colour as well as pied or with parts of white.

It is interesting that the origional colouring of muscovies in South America is black with a small ammount of white in the wings.

There are others, but i can not remember them all.

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Thanks for that.
It turens out the colour she has is from a sneaky mallard :lol:
def. a cross ducky.
But im getting 3 pure mussies from her on Sunday :D

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:00 pm 
I love my muscovies and I have many colours at the moment and more being developed.

White

Black
Bronze
Blue - dark grey/blue

Black and white - where the colour is a greater percentage to the white
Bronze and white
Blue and white (dark grey/blue)

Pied (Black) - where the white is a greater percentage to the colour
Pied (Bronze)
Pied (Blue - dark grey/blue)

Slate
Lavender
Light Blue
Chocolate

Cuckoo (brown)
Cuckoo (blue)

Barred (brown)
Barred (bronze)
Barred (blue)

Bibbed (black)
Top Hat (black)

Some of the colours above I only have one bird of, so will cross them with other colours to increase numbers.


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wow BB!
And i see you have my fav geese too!
I love pilgrams. i had a pair when i was a teenager and i went away for a week came home and mum had given them away :evil:
Worst thing was they were about 7 days out form bring out goslings so by the time i got home my geese where gone and my eggs were dead :cry:

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That is quite a list you have there BB.
Broken Bird wrote:
I love my muscovies and I have many colours at the moment and more being developed.

How do you develope a new colour?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:45 pm 
when you breed any poultry, you will always get strange and different colours come out or you may want to strengthen a colour in a bird

The cuckoo and barring in muscovies is very strong in a juvenile birds but no in adult birds, so need to strengthen it.

If you look in the internet you will see colours of muscovies that we do not have in Australia, so you look for birds within Australia that have that colour but has poor markings, etc and breed to strengthen it.

Or just look at the available birds and see if it fits another poultry markings or other marking, eg bib or top hat


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Hi BB,

I came across this bit of info when i was looking at genetics sites.

Barred (b). The barred pattern is recessive and can effect black, blue, chocolate, and lavender coloured birds. Two copies of the barred gene will cause normally dark ducklings to be yellow with darker coloured tips to the tail down. The first set of feathers grow in with a very striking and obvious white lace to the feathers, one cannot miss a juvenile barred duck! The adult feather pattern isn't as obvious but the barred individuals can still be recognized by what Holderread describes as a marbled effect on the sides and underbelly. It also causes a lighter undercolour which could be useful in some commercial applications.

It sounds like adult muscovies are not fully barred in any case. This was off an american site. I havent looked for pictures of barred adults though.

It describes Jase's barred muscovy ducklings to a t.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:49 pm 
this is exactly what I was trying to say, thanks.

The hard part is to get the adult feather to stay "more" barred and is a long term project of mine.

Then again genetics !@#!@#!@#!@# it is a hard one to get your brain around.

thanks ISA Green for the info.


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No worries, BB.

There is a whole page of this stuff for muscovies.

I'm not sure if it is of any use to you. You have probably figured most of it out yourself with your own breedings anyway!

http://www3.telus.net/OmegaBlue/muscovy ... netics.htm

I know what you mean about genetics. Makes your head spin sometimes.

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