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 Post subject: Poultry Photography
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:24 am 
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Poultry Photography

There is an art in taking the perfect photo of a fowl. There are many things which I (and many other people) have seen wrong with photos. This is a step by step guide (using photos) to hopefully improve your skills. If you don’t already know, I am a Wyandotte breeder and all of this is relating to how I achieve my photos.


Have a look at a professionally taken photo of your breed and take notice of what they have done and how they set the photo up.

What looks BAD

1. Blurry photos
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Many blurry photos are because of either the bird is moving or it is too dark (both of which are in this photo).
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Photos through mesh
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It is never a good idea to take photos through mesh. Half the time the mesh is in focus and the other half of the time you cant see all the plumage.

Only showing part of the body
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A lot of people only take photos of the head or the body and always forget the legs and feet. It is the same when a bird is sitting down. To be a good photo you need to see the whole body!

Shadows
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This photo was taken at that time of day were there are many shadows. It is also has a very complicated background.

5. Photos from above and below
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Photos always look better if you are on the same level as them. I always crouch down or take photos in show pens.

What Looks GOOD
Birds always look better when they are not in a dark smelly shed with the rest of the flock. Take your time and arrange the scene.

It doesn’t need to be a flash setup, all you need is a simple backdrop.

If taking picture in a box
Stand the bird square
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Work out if you want to highlight a front or back end
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As much as you might not realize this photo is emphasizing this birds front end as her tail is very underdeveloped.
Natural lighting is best as florescent lights make black birds with a green sheen in them look purple.
If you have quieter birds you now have the opportunity to adjust toes, feathers, wings, heads and anything else that may make a bird look better. This includes fluffing up a tail.
Before Adjusting
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After Adjusting
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If taking picture in a outside
Taking photos outside is very dangerous and many things can go wrong, but if done well, can make it look like they are real chooks.
Try to take photos in a smaller pen with only 1 bird in it. You are then not running around the yard after a bird which can look crazy.
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Bad
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Don’t take photos in sheds. It makes birds look sick and pale in colour.
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Take twice as many shots as it is harder to get a good one but it has been done
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Green Grass Always helps

Remember: A Good Photo Always Helps
Just Think, does this make my bird look good!
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Now I expect to see a lot of better photos on BYP!


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 Post subject: Re: Poultry Photography
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:32 am 
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The role of natural lighting on colours...I find the morning sun is often the best natural lighting, late afternoon can be pretty good as well. High noon, especially in the middle of summer is a real shocker, avoid it if possible unless you have specific reasons.

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 Post subject: Re: Poultry Photography
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:49 am 
think about what is in your background and crop your photo before you shrink it.

try to make the bird look as nice as possible and think of the photo as an art work rather than just a bird.

light can be used to enhance a bird.

learn by your mistakes. take heaps, down load as soon a spossible and look at them so you can see where your mistakes are and if they are not good enough go and do them again. this helps when the fascilities are not around, like at a show, to really see how good your photos are. one can ruin a lot of photos that you may never get the chance to do again by just one or 2 simple mistakes.

also if you have a camera that takes multiple shots at a time then use it as birds move quickly and sometimes that middle shot gets it perfect.


take your shots on as high megapoxels as you can so you can crop the photos and still present a good size photo here...there is nothing more frustrating than trying to look at a tiny photo....too big can be a hassle too but not as bad as too small. too big and you can down load them on your own computer and manipulate them there.

and that is not all....but practise practise practise.

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 Post subject: Re: Poultry Photography
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:36 pm 
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this really is an excellent thread, congrats to Spotted eggs for providing great info in a visual and easy to understand way. I find photography is a lot to do with practice. Every time you look at your photos, try to work out how you could make them better, and looking at other peoples great photos and learning what makes them look so good is a good way to keep improving.

I moved this thread to the photography section to help add value to the photo comp forum which is all about photographing birds :)

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 Post subject: Re: Poultry Photography
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:19 pm 
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Excellent information! Thankyou. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Poultry Photography
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:39 am 
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Great advise here, a very thorough and informative. :thumbs: Although some of the points are general in nature and can be a little contentious.

For example in my opinion there is nothing wrong with taking photos of part of a bird :lol: many great shots are simple profile shots also I'm not sure I agree totally with the point regarding afternoon or morning shadows, the example you have shown is more to do with the harshness of the light which can be a problem anytime of the day. Long shadows can be very effective tool for photographers.

I'm not trying to override the information you have supplied just provide an alternative view. You have done an excellent job in helping people understand a good photograph. Most people need to spend more time to look and compose the photograph before shooting, something the novice tends to forget.


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 Post subject: Re: Poultry Photography
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:14 pm 
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Very useful advice will help even when taking photos for fun!! :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Poultry Photography
PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:34 am 
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chooks rule wrote:
Great advise here, a very thorough and informative. :thumbs: Although some of the points are general in nature and can be a little contentious.

For example in my opinion there is nothing wrong with taking photos of part of a bird :lol: many great shots are simple profile shots


I was mainly talking about people who put photos like the one i had in the:
for sale
what breed
what quality sections

It is alot harder to say this is a bantam buff columbian wyandotte.


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 Post subject: Re: Poultry Photography
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:41 am 
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More hints on taking photos especially at Shows:

ruff wrote:
afraid we will have to put up with bars in front of cages as i feel people will not appreciate everyone going along and opening cages to do photos.

if you can put your camera on macro and have the lens as close as possible to the cage front you will not see the bars however you will most likely only get a bit of the bird.

sometimes i go along and take photos of batteries of birds, i think this is sucessful by the number of people who look at these photos. individual cages are good for champions of the sections and grand champions.

take the photos as big as you can and as many as you can...fill your memory stick. you can check and delete bad photos on the spot and this will give you room for more.

the reason i say take photos as big as you can is because when you bring them home you can crop them and then reduce them to a size that can go on here. 8mp is a good size.

unless you are taking a close up of a part of a bird, don't forget to include legs and feet...very very important for those who exhibit birds, might not mean much to the average joe blow.

if you can take multiple photos at once this is good as somewhere in the photos maybe a photo where the bird is not moving. many modern cameras have a setting to do this.

and most important...take your time, be patient.

my favourite birds....indians...pekins other than black or white.....malay, aussie (especially the bantam aussies if there are any)...perhaps sebrights.

maybe any goings on...chooks escaping etc. :lol:
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 Post subject: Re: Poultry Photography
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:00 pm 
thanks cackles, the thought of tracking this topic down and putting a link in did go through me head but the motivation was not there.

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 Post subject: Re: Poultry Photography
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I have decided to make this a Sticky topic at least for the time being, thanks Spotted Egg and Ruff and all who have contributed. :D It will be easier to refer to then. It is usual for Stickies to be locked as information posts. However, I will leave this one open in the hope that more questions and handy photographic tips will be forthcoming. :)

I have hopes of seeking and compiling tips especially from competitors in our Photo Competitions and anyone else with an interest in photography. I may even approach some owners of lovely photos in the Gallery and ask them how they achieved their results - so take this as fair warning! :P Meanwhile, all tips gratefully received!

There is currently a thread which may be eventually moved to this forum asking for more specialist advice on taking photos of young chicks: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7984164 :D


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 Post subject: Re: Poultry Photography
PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:07 pm 
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we have a setting that is called kids and pets.

cheers youri.


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 Post subject: Re: Poultry Photography
PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:00 pm 
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This thread is worthy of a re-read. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Poultry Photography
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I have to agree that this thread is worthy to re-read because it contains helpful ideas of taking photograph of rooster and hen.

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 Post subject: Re: Poultry Photography
PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:41 am 
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I'm just noting here a link to another thread that relates to this subject: your help on the photo, not the bird please.

( It came to my attention through a random pic in Gallery. )

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