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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:24 pm 
yahoo!....he is Db. Db on birchin gives clear breast, washed out hackles. add cuckoo and there he is.

hmmmm that does not explain why he is gold. must be split gold. yes that is it:

ER /ER, Db db+ S/s+

what do you think blackdotte? i don't know where he got the Db in the first place, possibly melanizers covered it up?
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No idea about actual breed but could it not be an effect of another roo and be that one of your hens is not purebred and throwing something from her genetics?

Also what interested me - the bird in the second photo - is it the same age? The first roo is so much more developed? Is that a breed thing or just something that happens? In other words - if they are the same age - is one of the breeds you think he may be mature much earlier than the Rock?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:33 pm 
thinking again. Db is dominant in roosters but recessive in hens so one of your hen carries Db.
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These are their parents..

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This is their birthday photo..the yellow one in there isn't from there clutch of eggs..but see the grey one? Well I had two of those..he could have been one of the grey ones now that I think of it. I'll have to band the next lot of chicks. Will be interesting to see if I get anymore like him.

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What can you tell us about the origin & breeding of the parent birds & their ancestors?


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What I can tell you about the parents would fill a line on my little finger..lol
They came as eggs from NSW..a lady who breeds both light and dark barred. She has all coloured orpingtons as well as pekins. That's about all I know.

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Ruff, As all three possible parents are Co/Co & none have Db,together with e+ in the Rock,& Wheaten in Sussex & RIR. I can't see where your Birchen could come from. Db & Co in combination clear all back from hackles ,wings & tail, which is why it's used in Buffs. Carefoot hypothesized that Cb didn't exist but was a result of the combination of Co & Db.
The neck hackles of the parent birds are very brassy, but that could be exposure to UV sunlight. There are other possibilities,which is why I asked what the origin of the birds were,Tasmanian or from one of the mainland States.
The other Rock males look to be very dark for Light Barred males,and remind me of the single pen Barred Rocks that prevailed in some States before the recognition of Dark & Light Barred in the 1998 Australian Standard.


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David if I s howed you some more photo's of the younger birds can you tell me if they are dark or light barred. I know for sure some of them have to be as they are so light in colour. I was sold dark and light barred eggs..but have assumed from what some other people have told me that they are all light barred.

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If it is any help I have a pullet of the same colour/markings from pure Rocks with no chance of another rooster mixing with the hens. :)
I have seen this colour on some of the American sites.
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so it may just be a throw back then.
I've oftened wondered about it.

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i had something like this happen with my sussex, my wyandotte hen ust have got in with my rooster, so i didnt collect the eggs for a few weeks, then when i started to collect them again i got a columbian wyandotte with like brownish markings lol

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here is one I got from pure db rocks. :o
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I am guessing it is a pullet and it has yellow legs :)
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