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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:05 pm 
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Hi all, Well finally got myself some REAL dark eyed mutation birds from a good breeder and friend of mine. After a fair bit of research we've discovered that what are being called dark eyed Cinnamon or Mocha is an incorrect representation of the actual mutation. It is in fact a Brown/ Chocolate mutation! Here are some pics of keets I hatched.

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Same bird feathering out....
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:14 pm 
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Nice pics, thanks. Any ideas on the genetics, eg, dominant, recessive, autosomal, sex-linked?


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:19 pm 
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It's interesting to me that the reddish colouring is disappearing as it feathers up. I know nothing about Guinea Fowl I must add. :-) Do you know yet what it will look like as an adult?


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:21 pm 
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wonderful, such a lovely baby!

thank you for posting your keet photos Bemba.
i have been wanting to see these for a few years.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:34 pm 
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That is so cute! Will be really interesting to see what colour it ends up! Great photos.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:01 pm 
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The other ones are still something a little different from the wild type surely?


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:15 pm 
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rollyard wrote:
Nice pics, thanks. Any ideas on the genetics, eg, dominant, recessive, autosomal, sex-linked?

I'm pretty sure we can rule out dominant.... Now to figure out if it's autosomal recessive or recessive sex linked, I have a feeling it's going to be Autosomal.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:17 pm 
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Cackles wrote:
It's interesting to me that the reddish colouring is disappearing as it feathers up. I know nothing about Guinea Fowl I must add. :-) Do you know yet what it will look like as an adult?

I think it's just like how normal pearl greys are very brown as keets then as they grow its replaced by the grey, same thing here just replacing that really reddish brown with the choc colour of an adult. Yes Ken Horley posted adult pics a while back.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:17 pm 
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grabby wrote:
wonderful, such a lovely baby!

thank you for posting your keet photos Bemba.
i have been wanting to see these for a few years.

No worries, I knew you'd like them :)


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:18 pm 
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NellyG wrote:
That is so cute! Will be really interesting to see what colour it ends up! Great photos.

NellyG

They turn outa really nice chocolate brown colour with full pearling as adults.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:20 pm 
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andrewschooks wrote:
The other ones are still something a little different from the wild type surely?

You'd think so, but now the only difference between them and my other pearls is that a mine are pieds!


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:07 pm 
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Here are a few comparison shots of Cinnamon, Grey and Brown/chocs...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:39 pm 
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Really nice comparison shots, Bemba. I can clearly see the red eye in the Cinnamon top photo, left hand side bird. The normal eyed brown birds eye also clear. The brown appears to be considerably darker in plumage @ this stage than the Cinnamon. They should be beauties when grown out.

Thanks for your thoughts on their genetics too. I expect you are looking forward to breeding a few more next season.


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They are gorgeous!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:45 pm 
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good shots bemba.
does the cinnamon look a lighter brown tone than the dark eyed brown keet? similar colour but not as dark or is it less reddish?

my art school training is showing here; it could even be the the light.

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