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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:53 pm 
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Hi, just a quick question....

I was just wondering about people I see carrying their birds upside down, held by their legs. (the birds legs, that is).

Is this a "kosher" way to carry birds?


For the record the method I use to carry them is; one hand either side of their boday, with my arms held straight out in front of me, and a pained expression on my face.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:26 pm 
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Carrying a chook upside down by the legs is the very wrong way to carry chooks. Apart from the fact it is stressing for the chook, fluids and partially digested food could and will drain from the crop and could then be sucked into the trachea and subsequently into the lungs.

A few years ago I posted a series of photos and a text on holding chooks in the palm of your hand (regardless of size) comfortably for both the fowl and the holder. It involves locking the legs between fingers with the birds breast bone resting on the palm and with the wings being held close to the body by the thumb and other fingers.

If you search - chookyinoz and using keywords "Holding a chook" it should pop up. I suffer from an internet bandwidth restriction otherwise i would search and provide that link for you .

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:46 pm 
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I tried the search and did not find anything. I will keep trying and when I do find it I will post a link.
Do you know what sub forum you posted it in?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:01 pm 
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this might be it:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:12 pm 
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Yes thats the thread. I have just reread it - sadly the photos were hosted on a webserver that has gone belly up and the december floods destroyed the computer and its hard disk theat held the photos.

I will see if the house photographer will take some more - hang on !!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:38 pm 
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Herewith updates photos

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:48 pm 
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Very handy photos and info. Thanks for that. I will keep this as my 'ideal standard' when my chooks will ever let me hold them!

Did I hear your chook say, "hang on a minute, didn't we do this once before?"

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:55 pm 
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Wow how did you find that?

Pity the photos can not be seen. I have never been shown how to hold a chicken so I might have to give it a go next time I need to catch one. How does it go on breeds like RIR?

Edit I can see the photos now :aaargh:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:16 pm 
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It goes just the same with a big chook - I was going to do a big fowl, small fowl photo comparison but the house photographer said something like "I am chatting on facebook, you have your photos, can I go now ?"

Big birds are not harder and they sit quietly and comfortably. I am not a big person and my thumb is 7 cm - middle the same and the little finger is 5.5 cm. Anyone can do it although i know people with very small hands dont quite stretch far enough

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:53 pm 
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Thanks Mike,

Winglet can pick the Bantam Menace girls up in one hand, as you have shown in your pictures, and they all pretty much sit there quietly.
I think she learned to do it at the "chook washing" demo at the Royal Melbourne Show a couple of years ago.

I just didn't think the "carry them upside down by their legs" method was either right or good.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:40 pm 
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Thanks... pictures help newbies like me :biggrin: Upside down does not suit any animal (or human animals!) I think.
My girls seem to nod off when picked up. Are they just comfortable or avoiding the situation by pretending to sleep?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:49 pm 
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I usually carry them with one hand under their feet and the other holding them against my stomach, with more wild birds I hold the legs together instead of them sitting on my hand.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:09 pm 
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Wow how did you find that?


If I told you that, I'd have to cull you :rofl: :rofl:

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:35 am 
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Holding chickens upside down doesn't seem polite to me.

My silkie won't tolerate being held underneath as suggested above. She likes to perch on my arm on her own terms. A strong will on that one. :)

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:04 am 
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During my feeding routine one of my young girls was standing next to me so I grabbed her and though I would try the hold technique on her. She sat there very quite no arguing what so ever. I held her for about 1 minute and then let her go. Once she was free she followed me where ever I went with in her pen and would allow me to pat her, she has never let me do that before. My first though was Mike is a chook whisperer.
I then moved to my larger pen where 2 chooks were on the nest and I thought i must try this again/ These 2 chooks were at least twice the size and it still worked but I did need a bit longer to get my finger in place. I did find it almost impossible to get my little finger to do as it was told on the bigger birds but I guess this will come with practise.
I main thing I noticed was how charm the birds were.
Thank you Mike you have changed my birds life I feel.
One question how does this technique go on breeds like large IG with the legs so far apart?

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