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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:48 pm 
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Hi all - I'm hoping someone can help me regarding my hen. Any advice gratefully received. Here are the details:

BASIC CHECK LIST FOR THE SICK BIRD

Age: 5 years
Breed: Australorp cross
Sex: hen

Your Location
Curtin, ACT

What is wrong? What symptoms have you noted?
For the past few weeks or so she has been sitting in the nest at night rather than roosting with the other two hens (her sisters)
She also sits down outside occasionally as well and recently hasn’t been as active as the other two. Today has been in the nest (not laying) and now is sitting in the corner of the pen. She's really gone downhill today.

What are you feeding? - Please list everything you're feeding to your birds, including type of basic feed, free ranging, scraps, extras, etc. If possible give approximate percentages.
Coprice Premium Layer Pellets 16% protein – access morning and evening
Scratch mix as a treat, usually a few handfuls between them each day (cracked corn, wheat, milo)
Weeds
Occasional fruit/veg scraps – fresh - (eg tops of strawberries, carrot peels)
In cold weather they share a serve of ½ – 1 cup layer mash with ½ tsp kelp powder

They are housed in a large chook pen, draught-free, deep litter, dry. Let out in afternoons to free-range in an outdoor yard.

Full droppings description.- colour, consistency, frequency, offensive smell.
Usual colour – white and brown?, catching on her feathers, not offensive. But she just passed a white runny one.
No green, yellow or red …

Respiratory Changes?- eg. breathing sounds, discharge, laboured breathing, facial swelling
No

Digestive Changes?- eg. eating, drinking, crop filling & emptying
Up until today has been eating OK, but not as much as the other two. Today not much at all in her crop. She just ate some scratch mix but lost interest.

Condition Changes?- eg. Weight, comb/wattle colour, skin, feathering
No

Behavioural Changes?- inc. socialising, laying, crowing, broodiness
Don’t know if she is laying (we’re getting one or two eggs every few days)

Agility Changes? - eg. any lameness, favouring, energy levels
She sits around a fair bit but no lameness or favouring

Describe your usual worming routine and products. [If none, say so and skip the next 3 worming questions.] Do you have a cycle that you use eg. every 3 months, or every six months?
It varies, usually twice a year

1. When was the bird last wormed??- approximate date.
22/5/20 (and 6/1/20 previously)

2. What product was used to worm the bird, and how was it given? ? eg. in the drinking water, on the skin, by injection?
Avitrol Plus tablet in mince (last year used Ivermectin on skin)

3. Was a follow up dose given? (eg. 10-14 days later)
No

Any other recent medications?
No

Other changes? – additions to the flock, diet, housing, extreme weather
The weather has been changeable lately - warm / cold/ slightly warmer / cold and wet / warm

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:04 pm 
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Sounds like she could either be egg bound or have egg yolk peritonitis here's a couple of links viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8019702
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8037289&p=802561&hilit=egg+yolk+peritonitis#p802561

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:09 pm 
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Many thanks John for the quick reply, that's really helpful info. I'll try the warm water treatment in the morning.

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Ros


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:41 am 
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Just an update: I did the warm water and epsom salts yesterday. She didn't eat much at all but I did see her drink over 5 mins or so later in the day. Today she is eating with the others but still sits around a lot. Seems better than yesterday morning. Her comb is red, I thought her abdomen may have been a bit swollen, warm and rounded yesterday but I'm not sure today compared to the other two there doesn't seem to be much difference. Poop photo attached from this morning 1/10/20 (green/white). Her vent looks normal. Does the green mean liver issues? Any thoughts?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:58 pm 
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Green droppings means she isn't digesting her food properly and or she has a bacterial infection in her intestines.

Is her crop emptying overnight? Is it soft and squishy or hard and impacted?

If her crop is ok it might be time to give her a course of antibiotics in case she has egg yolk peritonitis.

If a vet visit is out of the question, you could medicate her yourself. You need amoxycillin or cephalexin, marketed under various brand names, check the packet. If you haven't got any unused pills yourself, ask your friends or relatives, someone usually has some.

The dosage is 100mg/kg twice daily for 7days ie a 2.5kg chook needs a 250mg tablet twice daily. I know this sounds a lot, but birds have a fast metabolism and require a high dosage.

Good luck with her, let us know how she goes.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:08 pm 
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I took her to a vet because after trying the warm bath treatment (which she appeared to enjoy) and reading the egg bound info I didn't think it was that (esp as she didn't relate to the list of symptoms in the link viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8019702 ).
It looks like her kidneys are the issue and her legs could also be causing a problem and also contributing to her sitting around a lot. So basically age related (she's five). She's on cranberry caps every second day (5 caps in total), and good mince which we give her a 2-3 times a day and she loves. She has more interest in things and is eating some scratch mix with the other two chooks as well. She is drinking a lot of water. So we'll keep an eye on her and see how she goes. Her crop has been working ok.

Thanks John for your concern and help. (The antibiotic info is good for future reference). I'll let you know how things go.

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