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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:47 pm 
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Wondering if someone might be able to help me with my chook's foot!! I noticed he was limping a lot and so had a look at the bottom of his foot. It appears there is a growth of some sort on it - is this something common in chooks - we're quite new at this. Any ideas¿?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:04 pm 
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Welcome to the forum Bob :)

I am going to move your post to our Good Samaritan Medical Centre. There is a lot of information there and you will find some about foot problems in the A-Z index at the top.

Have a read about a condition referred to as bumblefoot and see if anything about that might fit your bird's foot problem.

We encourage photos too to help see a bit more detail. :)

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:12 pm 
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Bumblefoot


This is a condition affects the pads of the feet.
Bumble foot affects all birds
It is caused by the bacteria staphylococcus aureus, which is present wherever there are chickens.

Avoidance

Bumblefoot is difficult to cure.
Make sure the roosts are rounded and not too high off the ground.
Sand off any potential splinter areas.
Ensure plenty of litter, 3-4 inches or more deep in the coop
Don't use wire bottom cages, unless you really have to
Give vitamin supplements, especially Vitamin A.
For problem flocks Biotin and Vitamin E+C levels should also be checked - and where feed is low (or has been in store for more than 21 days) a supplement should be given.
Staph enters the foot through injury to the pad - either by bruising or breaks in the skin caused by sharp objects, a small cut, bruise or any small opening
Avoid high roosts
Avoid sharp litter

Symptoms
Most people notice swelling of the footpad, and if you look at the pad and note a dark, blackish scab, it is bumblefoot.
The swelling is due to an abscess in the pad.
It causes, lameness, swollen foot, a scab on the foot pad

Pre - Treatment
Isolate the bird
Make sure it is out of drafts and direct sun, but with fresh air
Fresh food and water to be available at all times
Put a deep layer of fresh clean SOFT litter for the bird to stand on
And if the bird is laying supply a nice clean soft nest area also

Have on hand the following:

Betadine, hydrogen peroxide or Lysol (*Lysol – see bottom of page for more information), Neosporin or bacitracin, sterile scalpel or 14g needle, coban, sterile 2x2 gauze pads, surgeon's gloves, Epsom salts, anti bacterial soap, small scrubbing brush
Have a cage ready to put the chicken in when you're finished, or a small dog kennel carrier with scrap towels for bedding
Make sure you have deep litter in the cage
I have used Terramycin or Baytril in the water for a week - follow the directions on the package.

Treatment
Wash the legs and feet thoroughly with warm soapy water with some antiseptic in the water, not too much you don’t want to burn the legs
Or you can - Soak the foot in an Epson salts solution as directed on the package for a human
Then lightly scrub the affected area with an anti bacterial hand soap
Scrub it good enough to remove most of the scab, but not hard enough to damage the leg and make it bleed
Rinse the leg(s) and feet and dry thoroughly

Then spray the affected area with Lysol then apply bacitracin and bandage.... keep the bird separated in a small cage. (Or you can use a dog kennel carrier, put some scrap towels for bedding and do this every night right before roosting time for 3-5 nights

If you don’t think that will work then you can try :-[br]
Thoroughly drenching the feet in hydrogen peroxide, full strength for seven days, twice a day

If the foot has any open wounds DO NOT USE HYRDOGEN PEROXIDE, use iodine (Betadine lotion), only use the peroxide to do the initial cleaning out of the wound, not as an ongoing treatment
If any open wounds apply an antibacterial or antibiotic powder

Give the bird a broad-spectrum antibiotic in the drinking water for the next 5 to 7 days
Also give the bird 2 tablespoon of yoghurt (plain unsweetened culture) to keep the bird from getting diarrhea due to the antibiotics, as it upsets the natural flora (bacteria) of their bowel

When it has healed clean the area where the bird was staying with bleach solution and keep the bedding clean 2-3 times a day until the skin on the pad has rehardened.
Then go back to normal care.

It has been found that many of the antibiotics that they used to use are no longer effective against Staph, below are some that I recently found that may be effective (Oct 2005)


Ani – staphylococcal Penicillins
Staphylococcal infections

Generic Name
Flucloxacillin –
Dicloxacillin –-
Cloxacillin
Nafcillin -
Oxacillin

Brand Name:
Floxapen
Dynapen
Diclocil
Tegopen

Methicillin – No longer available

Generic Names - Brand Name - Mode of Action - Main Use
Gentamicin – Garamycin – Mode of action > Inhibit protein synthesis – Main Use >Serious Gram negative infections
Netilmicin – Netromycin - same as above
Tobramycin – Nebcin – same as above
Amidacin – Amikin – same as above

Streptomycin – Generics – Mode of action> Inhibits protein synthesis – Main Use > Tuberculosis

Neomycin – Generics – Mode of action > Inhibits protein synthesis – Main Use > Skin infections (topical)

Spectinomycin – Trobicin – Mode of action > Inhibit protein synthesis – Main Use > Gonorrhoea


Opening the infected area to remove the pus

Sometimes Bumblefoot doesn’t have a puss filled pad, check before you cut

If your going to do anything to the bird, it is always a good idea to have a helper with you, but you can do it yourself, just make sure the bird is unable to move about, if you have a stretch bandage, then wrapping this around the birds wings, will certainly help

Before you start, put on a pair of disposable gloves, you don’t want the staph infection getting into you, if you have any small nick in your skin it can and will get in to your system
Wash the leg and foot, gently scrub with betadine until clean at least 30 seconds

If you can soak the foot until the scab is soft, do that and then pull off the scab
Lance the pad with the needle or scalpel and squeeze out the pus
Do this under running water
Yes, there will be bleeding
After the pus is out as much as you can get, dip the foot into peroxide solution
The blood will cause a foaming reaction

If there is a lot of bleeding, hold pressure with a sterile 2x2 pad until stopped or under control.
Apply Neosporin or a sulfa ointment to the site
Apply a sterile gauze pad 2 x 2s for padding
You can either use a stretch bandage or wrap the foot firmly with coban (tape)

Wrap so the toes and spur are exposed – if you’re working on a rooster
Don't wrap so tight that you cut off circulation
You will want to start the wrap on the foot and work up to the leg

If you use the sticky tape, you will find that the chicken can’t pull it off, change the dressing in 2-3 days
If your using elastic bandage then change the dressing daily and re-apply the bandage and sterile dressing, I actually prefer the bandage, this way I can check the progress of the wound each day

I keep the chicken confined until the pad is well healed so that it won't open up when they go back to free ranging.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:38 pm 
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Hi I was just wondering if the eggs layed by hens on penicillin are safe to eat ? as many people
are allergic to penicillin . :?:

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:39 pm 
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There is a witholding period when a chhok is on medication -0 especially antibiotics. Check with you vet to see how long he recommend you don't eat the eggs for if it doesn't say on the bottle.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:52 pm 
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7-14 days is the normal range if you're not sure. If you want to be conservative, go for 14 days.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:14 am 
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Thanks, I am really learning a lot . :D

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