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    Medications - information and threads - withholding periods
    All drugs derived from fungi or bacteria and used against other living organisms are called antibiotics, or sometimes antimicrobials. They fall into six basic categories: anthelmintic - against worms; anti-protozoal - against protozoa; antiviral - against viruses; anti-fungal - against mould and fungi; and antibacterial - against bacteria.

    Antibacterials
    Alphabetical order


    Note: ALL antibacterials indicate that they are not to be used in food producing poultry at all.
    They will not state a withholding period. This is because of concerns about antibiotic residues in our food chain. Cautious labelling also prevents any tiny residue of medication causing a reaction in anyone who is allergic and eats the eggs. Guides are given primarily with commercial needs in mind, and backyard poultry needs do not seem to be taken into account. Many of these antibiotics are safe for humans and are actually prescribed for certain human medical conditions. A withholding period of 7-14 days is conservative and the chance of any residue being in the eggs after 14 days is very very low.


    Baytril - Enrofloxicin - BYP Thread
    Recommended by Bayer for Respiratory Disease in poultry.

    Erythromycin Thiocyanate - BYP Thread

    Feeding eggs back to dogs – antibiotics - BYP Thread

    Oxytetracycline BYP thread
    Oxytetracycline - safe; use @ 200 mg. To 1000 mg. (1 Gm.) per gallon water; withdrawal time - 5 days. Source - Fowlboards

    Tetracycline BYP Thread

    Tetracycline - BYP Thread

    Doxycycline tablets - 100mg per tablet - 1 tablet twice a day for an adult chicken. (See post by hensandstuff below)

    Tetracycline (Doxyvet) details at Aus Pigeon Co
    Doxycycline hydrochloride 120 mg/g
    Directions: 3 grams in 2 litres of water for pigeons, caged and aviary birds (level measure containing 3 g is enclosed)
    For Chlamydia infections, treat birds for 45 days; For other susceptible infections, treat birds for 7 – 10 days.
    Remove all other sources of water during treatment and change medicated water daily. Doxyvet solution is affected by severe heat and ultraviolet light. Place medicated water in a cool, dark part of the aviary or loft. Removal of grits and other mineral sources during treatment will increase effectiveness of medication
    Not to be used in birds producing meat or eggs for human consumption. Store below 30°C in a dry dark place.

    Triple C - Chlortetracycline Hydrochloride - BYP Thread

    Tylan - Tylosin
    800mg/g Tylosin as tartrate (powder which is mixed with water to give in drinking water). Add at the rate of 100gms to 5 litres water and dissolve thoroughly. Further dilute the concentrated solution to provide 200 litres of medicated drinking water. Therapeutic treatment: Give for 3-6 days depending on severity of infection. Preventive treatment (CRD): Treat for the 1st 3 days of life. Repeat treatment for one day at 3 to 4 weeks of age, or to coincide with live vaccine or other stress.
    Withholding: meat - nil; eggs - not to be used
    Store below 25 degrees in dry place.
    Information taken from Elanco label

    Wormers (Anthelmintics) and Anti-protozoan Medications
    Alphabetical order


    Avitrol Plus - Off-label for use in Chickens (no residue data available)
    Avitrol Plus tablets are given at a dose rate of 2 tablets per 1kg bodyweight. The syrup can be given directly to the bird at a dose rate of 4ml per 1 kg bodyweight or put in the drinking water at a rate of 25ml per 1L water. Advised to give 2 doses, 14 days apart.
    A "default" withholding time of 7 days after dosing is advised for the eggs and meat.
    BYP Thread containing information from Mavlab and contact phone no.

    Baycox Coccidiocide Solution - Bayer PDF Information
    Baycox - 25g/L Toltrazuril Administer in drinking water @ 3:1000 on 2 consecutive days using 8 hour treatment period on both days. Withholding period 14 days - meat. Withholding for eggs - six weeks.


    Coccivet - Vetafarm info
    Active Constituents: Amprolium 80 g/L, Ethopabate 5.1 g/L.
    Directions: Mix 15mL of Coccivet in 10 Litres of water. Remove all other water sources during treatment. Treat all birds continuously for 5-7 days.
    Store below 30 degrees C.
    Withholding period: Could find one, but the ingredients are the same as in Keystat and the withholding on that is: Meat - Nil; Eggs - Not to be used in currently laying birds, but can be used for replacement bird up to 7 days before producing eggs.

    Cydectin Pour on for Cattle & Red Deer - Off Label use - BYP Thread for drops method
    5g/L Moxidectin. Solvent: 150g/L hydrocarbon liquid. Made by Fort Dodge.
    Moxidectin is a second generation macrocyclic lactone endectocide.
    Dosage: 1mL per 10kg liveweight. Treats roundworms, lungworm, cattle tick, lice and mites. Withholding periods: Cattle - nil; Deer - 7 days before slaughter. Store below 30 degrees C. Protect from light.
    Source: Label on container.

    Emtryl (Dimetradazole) BYP Thread
    Dimetradazole - (Emtryl is the brand name)- Note: Banned in USA.
    Available as a water-soluble powder. Has narrow safety margin. Overdose leads to a reversible loss of balance and coordination and, in high doses, death. The medication can interfere with sperm production in cocks, leading to a temporary infertility, and so is not recommended for use during breeding. The usual dose is 1 teaspoon (3 grams) to 4½ - 8 litres of water. Lower dose rates should be used in stock birds feeding youngsters and during hot weather.
    Withholding - 5 days.
    Details of canker meds at Aus Pigeon Co

    Flagyl - BYP Thread
    Flagyl - made by Pfizer - (Metronidazole) - Treatment for canker/trichomoniasis.
    Tablets - for a 2kg chook - 1/4 of a 400mg flagyl tablet daily, if its 3kg + then 1/2 tablet daily - Source
    Flagyl S suspension 40mg/ml is also effective and can be given at a dose of 25-50mg/kg orally for five days or 100mg/L drinking water - Source
    Withholding not specified by manufacturer - but 7 days suggested in thread.

    Ivomec Drench for Sheep - Off label use - BYP Thread
    Ivomec Liquid for Sheep Broad Spectrum Oral Antiparasitic Solution - Ivermectin 0.8 g/L.
    Withholding Period: Meat: 10 days; Milk: Do not use within 28 days of lambing or during lactation if milk is intended for human consumption. Export Slaughter Interval: 10 days
    Dosage: 2.5 mL/10 kg liveweight orally.

    Ivermec/Ivermectin - BYP Thread - Scroll down to Post by County Lodge for drops dose
    Ivomec Pour-on for Cattle - Off label use -
    Liquid, Ivermectin 5 mg/mL
    Withholding Periods: Meat: Cattle: 42 days; red deer: 35 days. Milk: Do not use within 28 days of calving or during lactation if milk is intended for human consumption. Note: the above withholding period relates to cattle. For off-label poultry use there is no guide, however Stella has given a general advice of 7 days in this post. Export Slaughter Interval: 42 days
    Dosage: 1 ml/10 kg liveweight applied along the topline from the withers to the tailhead.

    Keystat Solution - Coccidiostat Fact Sheet
    by International Animal Health Products - The Australian Company
    Contains Amprolium Hydrochloride 216g/L; Ethopabate 14g/L
    Treatment Dosage rates: Mix to 1:900 for 5-7 days in the drinking water. Mild treatment - half strength for 5-7 days. Prevention dose: 1:900 every fourth day or as directed by vet.
    Also available in powder form: Powder treatment rate: 500g Keystat Powder per tonne of feed. Use continuously or intermittently in the feed. Four weeks continuously is usually sufficient.
    Withholding Meat - Nil; Eggs - not to be used in currently laying birds, but can be used up to 7 days prior to egg laying.

    Mectin family - Macrocyclic Lactones - Background info - BYP Thread

    Moxidectin Information BYP thread with quotes from Dr Walker
    Water-based - Moxidectin 2 mg/ml, praziquantel 18.8 mg/ml
    Flock treatment – Dilute at the rate of 5 ml to 1 litre of drinking water and make available to the birds for 24 hours. The solution should be made fresh prior to use and provided in a clean drinking vessel. Individual bird treatment – 0.25 ml per 400 g (pigeon) body weight. Withholding period – 5 days

    Nilverm Pig & Poultry Wormer - BYP Thread
    Levamisole Hydrochloride at 14gm/l is the active ingrediant. For treatment of roundworms.
    Given in drinking water. Replace medicated water with fresh when it's consumed or after 8 hours.
    Dosage: 50ml of product to 1 litre water for every 30kg liveweight of birds you want to treat.
    Withholding: Meat - Do not use less than 7 days before slaughter; Eggs - Nil.
    Do not treat in extremely hot weather.
    Link to the label HERE

    Panacur Product Details
    Fenbendazole (Panacur) By Intervet Schering-Plough Animal Health
    Panacur withholding - meat 7 days.
    Off-label for use in food producing poultry. Egg withholding of 7 days suggested in post below.

    Piperazine
    450g Piperazine Citrate - For treatment of roundworms - Made by Pharmachem
    Birds - 20ml in one litre of water for one day (Pigeons)
    Withholding period: meat - nil; eggs - nil
    Store below 30 degrees C

    Sulphadim - Coccidiosis medication - BYP Thread - scroll to post by Sandy
    Active ingredients: 70mg/ml sulfadimone sodium (equivalent to 64.9mg/ml sulfadimidine).
    Dosage for chickens: 4-6 drops (0.2ml - 0.3ml) to be given directly into the beak 3 times per day. Also, add 16 drops (0.8ml) per 30ml of drinking water.
    Give the 6 drops and 0.8ml per 30 ml of drinking water for 5 days
    Withholding period: None given - suggest 1-2 weeks.
    More information HERE

    Sulphaquin - Active Constituent: 70g/L Sulfaquinoxaline
    For the prevention and treatment of Coccidiosis in poultry.
    made by Inca (Flight) Company Pty Ltdk 22-23 Forthorn Place, St Marys NSW 2760 Ph: (02) 9833 1729
    Directions for use:
    Caecal Coccidiosis: Treat at outbreak for two days at the rate of 6mL per litre of water. After a further 3 days on plain water retreat birds for 2 days at a rate of 5ml per litre of water, followed by a further 3 days on plain water. Repeat this intermittent treatment as required.
    Intestinal Coccidiosis: Continuous treatment for 5 days at a rate of 5ml per litre of water. On completion flush out for 3 days with 50ml of molasses per 5 litres of water.
    Preventive treatment: Treat chickens at 2-3 weeks of age for 2 days at rate of 3ml per litre of water, followed by 3 days on plain water. Repeat this intermittent treatment until birds are 12 weeks of age, or until immunity is affected.
    Withholding Period: Withdraw medicated water 14 days before slaughter for human consumption. Do not use in birds producing eggs for human consumption.
    Store below 25 degrees C. Protect from light. Source - label from bottle.

    Sulfonamides - Group of Medications
    Sulpha D (sulfadiazine)
    Sulpha 3 (Sulphaquinoxaline+Sulphadimidine+Sulphathiazole) not approved for meat/eggs
    Sulphaquin (Sulphaquinoxaline)
    Sulphadim (Sulphadimone)
    Approved for use in food producing poulty following appropriate withholding:
    Sulphadimidine - Offal and Meat only (if used in turkeys, avoid eating offal and skin) Sulphadiazine – Offal and meat
    Sulphaquinoxaline – Offal and meat
    Trimethoprim – Offal and meat
    Note: sulphonamides are not approved for use in egg producing birds, therefore no data is available to establish a safe withholding. Experts on BYP have suggested a 14 day withholding if it is used, as there would be only minute residual amounts after this time.

    Update: Permit issued 2009 by Australian Pesticides & Vet medicines authority for minor use of Sulphonamide medications in Australia: *link broken*

    Wormout tablets by [url=http://www.msd-animal-
    Active Constituents: per tablet: 20mg Praziquantel, 20mg Oxfendazole
    For the treatment of Thread Worm (Capillaria spp.), Tapeworm (Raillietina spp., Choanotaenia spp.), Roundworm (Ascaridia spp.), and Caecal Worm (Heterakis gallinarum) in pigeons and bantams only.
    Give one tablet by mouth per 2Kg body weight. Repeat in 8-12 weeks.
    NOT TO BE USED on birds intended for human consumption.

    Sykes Big L Wormer for Poultry and Pigs - Sykes web page
    Active ingredient - levamisole Hydrochloride - 14g/L.
    Withholding period: meat - 7days; eggs - nil
    Big L (manufacturer Sykes) wormer for poultry and pigs. Active constituent 14g/L Levamisole
    Dosage per instructions - 100mls to 2L clean water, to be removed after 8 hours.
    Note: I have found reference to 14g/L and also 16g/L so take care to read the label.
    Sykes Big L - BYP Thread where some details are given

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    We wormed all the chooks with Panacur a fortnight ago and again today.
    Reading the info here,No egg with -holding period.

    Confused now
    Vet said leave it a week before eating the eggs.

    So do we eat the eggs or not.

    Thanks in advance for your help with this.


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    Thanks for this thread, I have found it most interesting.

    To Mottly crew, I read the product details for pancur, and poultry was not listed on its application, I would therefore follow your vets advice.

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    In every case take the vets advice over ours. The vet is the one giving you his/her advice.
    C'07s advice is cleaned from many different topics and discussions on aspects of withholding and BYP has a disclaimer that any advice given here is given in good faith.

    Your vet has liability insurance :oops:

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    That particular info was given to me by our resident vet, but as Mike says - always take your own vet's advice over ours.

    Fenbendazole has no Minimum Residue Level set by the Australian Vet Medicines and Pesticides Authority (Aus Gov) as at Feb 2009, so I would say that it's not registered for use in food producing birds. A vet will give their expert opinion based on their knowledge and experience.

    Thanks mottley crew & Kenm, I've put a note in the list under Panacur.

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    We used Panacur, as with individual dosing we knew they were
    all being dosed.
    They [12] like to source water from other areas,and I was sure a full dose
    was not being received of the add to water ones.

    Very interesting reading re all the products.

    Thanks for your help.


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    It is an excellent list, Chicken07. :thumbs: Many thanks for all your work!

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    Hip, Hip Hooray! Many thanks Chicken07 for this great posting! I finally have the answers I have been chasing for a few weeks now. You make a great point about the allergies. I took ages trying to decide what to do with my small flock when advised to treat with Doxycycline a few weeks ago. After another fatality, I was left with no choice, and had to go ahead with the treatment. Thankfully only one hen was laying prior to treatment, and she hasn't layed since, so the egg thing hasn't been such an issue. Just one thing to add to your great posting..I used individual tablets - given to each chook twice a day. Personally I think this is a far better way to treat them, because then you know exactly what dose each one has had.

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    Thanks for the feedback hensandstuff. I see what you mean about the tablets being a reliable way to administer meds. I haven't got the label details for the tablets. If you have info about the concentrations and dosage (details), I am happy to add it to the list. I can't say to give half a tablet twice a day unless you tell us exactly what's in it.

    I know what you mean about eggs. So many people ask about withholding periods for eggs when birds are medicated and very sick. In my experience, most birds that are so sick they're on ABs aren't going to be laying eggs for quite a while anyway.

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    The tablets were 100mg doxycycline per tablet, and I was treating Orps's at 1 tablet twice a day...so I guess for smaller hens you might half that dose...but given that you would need to get them from a vet, they would be able to recomend the dosage.

    While we are on the subject of tablets - I also treat for worms with a tablet too. It is called "Worm Out"
    Just my opinion, but at least I know then that each and every bird has been treated.

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    Thanks Roz, both of those items have been now added to the list.

    Note that the Wormout is not for use in food producing birds, so it doesn't come with a withholding period on the label. 7 days both both meat and eggs would be a sensible time to wait. Is that what your vet advised?

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    GRrrrrr - the vet didn't advise anything on the wormout!! Strange seeing as he was sooooo particular to warn me about the Doxy. He was rather disparaging about my previous worming with Nilverm and Piperazine - apparently it hadn't got all the roundworms. Because he didn't say anything - we just kept on eating our eggs....haven't dropped off our perches yet! If this is the case then - yep I'd recommend a good week withholding.

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    Hi. We've had our POLs on a mix of layers pellets(75%) and starter crumbles(25%) as they all seemed to need a mild coccidiostat when they arrived (from 12 weeks). I had moved them off this mix entirely, but began to see some indications of their droppings getting bloody and runny, so put them back on the %mix again.
    Now half of the birds have begun to lay. I went ahead and excitedly cooked up a few of the new eggs, and have just been told that there's a withholding period for egg layers on medicated starter crumbles of 10 days. Is this the case?
    Will I have some bizzare reaction to the medicated eggs?(I'm grand right now but y'never know!).

    Thanks in advance.


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    No, you'll be fine. There is usually a withholding of about 7-10 days, but the residues are very minute. In the future, I would just feed them back to the chickens for a week before you start eating them yourselves. IMO for any significant risk you'd need to be eating the eggs with residues in them all the time.

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    THANKS, excellent thread Chicken07!

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