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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:51 am 
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Hello,

I am wondering if anyone can diagnose my bird or do you think a vet can help at all with this problem?

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Age:1.5yrs
Breed:Malay Game
Sex:Female

Your Location- country, state (different areas/climates have different problems)
ANSWER: Australia, NSW, Snowy Mountains

What is wrong? What symptoms have you noted? - As much detail as possible please.
ANSWER: My lovely girl is swollen underneath her vent (see image) a large tennis ball size. She has been weeping the yellow discharge. The swollen area feels like an infection not hard like an egg (ie eggbound).

Full droppings description.- colour, consistency, frequency, offensive smell.
ANSWER: She lets out a little wimper when she tries to go to the toilet and he dropping are white and liquid (does that mean just the urine?)

Respiratory Changes?- eg. breathing sounds, discharge, laboured breathing, facial swelling
ANSWER: SHe is starting to sit down alot more and breathes heavily with eyes closed.

Digestive Changes?- eg. eating, drinking, crop filling & emptying
ANSWER: Not much eating as she obviously knows it will not pass.

Condition Changes?- eg. Weight, comb/wattle colour, skin, feathering
ANSWER: She is molting as well. Has lost weight a little due to not eating much the past few days.

Behavioural Changes?- inc. socialising, laying, crowing, broodiness
ANSWER: Walks around a bit but mostly sits to the side as it obviously hurt to sit on the lump.

Agility Changes? - eg. any lameness, favouring, energy levels
ANSWER: Her energy levels have fallen but the swollen area is getting much smaller? Could it just be weakness fighting the illness.

1. When was the bird last wormed??- approximate date.
ANSWER: She was wormed around a month ago

2. What product was used to worm the bird, and how was it given? ? eg. in the drinking water, on the skin, by injection?
ANSWER: In the water.

3. Was a follow up dose given? (eg. 10-14 days later)
ANSWER: Yes but I used a different product from City chicks which goes on the neck.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:10 am 
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This looks like the egg (soft or hard shelled...hopefully soft) may have broken inside and an infection has set in.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:29 am 
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Sadly I agree its egg yolk peritonitis and fairly advanced.

The outcome is not good and in most cases even treatment with fairly heavy dose vet prescribed antibiotics the survivability is fairly low.

You have a make a decision here - at some point recognise that that she is not going to make it. Give her a chance though but recognise when its time and stop her dying a very painful death.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:38 am 
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Is it worth taking her to the vet to get antibiotics ie can they prescribe something to help clear up the infection.

I have to say I have had her on OXY-B just because it is the only thing I have at home that I thought might help if it was an infection. Since taking it, a few days now the lump has decreased in size considerably but she is less active and her comb has turned a mulberry colour.

I will give her another bath and some electrolytes....maybe even some of my colloidal minerals for allover well being and hope for the best I guess.

I think I'll take her to the vet anyway. I like to think I have always done everything I can.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:56 pm 
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It isn't going to be cheap so it is up to you but a vet who treats birds could try giving her an injection of a much more powerfull antibiotic more targeted to this. An avian vet could actually drain that out and clean her up inside but that would require a general anesthetic and it will be expensive. It is up to you.... she would still have to recover from it after and the stress could do her in, depends how far down hill she has gone.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:29 pm 
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Thanks all. I took her to the vet this afternoon and he said based on what I could tell him and how she looks that it is probably Lymphoid Leucosis although she had vaccinated against Marek's. She was euthanized, she had gone downhill pretty rapidly today, given up I guess. Anyway, she is not in pain anymore.

I'll miss little Jane. Since you only saw her bottom before, here she is in better days - I'll miss her!

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:38 pm 
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Hi
Sad to hear that but it was what was expected. Just the luck of the drawer unfortunately.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:53 pm 
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Good looking girl, sorry she couldn't be saved. You did everything you could.

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