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 Post subject: worm/mite treatment
PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:45 pm 
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I somewhat stupidly wormed the girls about a month and a half ago(workout tablets) and forgot to do a follow up. They had tapeworm segments again, so I wormed them on the weekend.
They've got some scaly mite & I think mites as well. So worms, scaly mite & mites.

I had some spot on ivermectin that I treated them with the weekend before last for the scaly mite then read the long thread that said spot-ons are basically useless.

I have frontline spray that I've used with success in the past, although not for scaly mite.

I don't want to increase the chances of treatments becoming ineffective, so what's the best step from here?

1. Get more ivermectin spot on for the follow-up treatment, follow up the wormout treatment & spray for mites (not all at once, don't worry)?

2.get the moximectin (oral) treatment and use that in place of wormout, ivermectin & frontline spray?

3. Get moximectin (oral) and treat with that, wormout & frontline (so only in place of ivermectin)?

4. any combination of the above?

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 Post subject: Re: worm/mite treatment
PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:57 pm 
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Go with choice number two - make sure it is moxidectin Plus (contains Praziquantel as well) to do the tape worms.

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 Post subject: Re: worm/mite treatment
PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 5:00 pm 
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Thanks Mike,
Really appreciate your time, I'll treat them on the weekend.


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 Post subject: Re: worm/mite treatment
PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 9:42 pm 
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I treat my fowls with Ivermectin cattle pour-on. I don't have mites or lice and according to a worm float, no worms either.

The studies may say that a spot-on is useless and give reasons why but they work for me.

Linz :)

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 Post subject: Re: worm/mite treatment
PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:08 pm 
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my 2 cents

What ever you decide to dose your chickens with for worming the fastest and most complete program would be to drench your birds directly to the beak with an anthelmintic (moxi or whatever you want) and while you are holding them spray normal household flyspray onto the legs (the semi synthetic pyrethroids will take care of the scaly-leg mites) and give them a dusting around the vent and up to the chest with Pestene (rotenone)

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 Post subject: Re: worm/mite treatment
PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:13 pm 
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I don't know about fly spray, reckon they'd eat some of it preening it off. can't taste good :) shouldn't the moxi treat scaly mites?


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 Post subject: Re: worm/mite treatment
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the fly spray is the same as dipping your birds in a permethrin solution like avian insect liquidator, you need a lot to impact on the bird. if in doubt just get avian insect liquidator.

Moxi will treat scaly leg .... eventually

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 Post subject: Re: worm/mite treatment
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what is the witholding period for eggs after treating with moxi? also is it a once only dose in the water or do you treat for a number of days?thanks in advance


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 Post subject: Re: worm/mite treatment
PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 12:06 pm 
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Short answer is 10 days witholding but a better answer is that as it is not a product registered for use in poultry there has never been any witholding trials done on poultry. There certainly has on other animals such as cats dogs sheep cattle pigs etc and it is a safe product. We know it works without risk in poultry at the recommended dose rate.

To dose poultry it is 5 ml per litre of water. Now they wont like it so its important that they are thirsty so withdraw all other water mid afternoon so they become thirsty. Then the next morning place the medicated water in the pen and make sure it is the only water they can access. Leave for 24 hours and then replace it with fresh clean unmedicated water/ Repeat a fortnight later to catch any worms that have hatched from eggs in the chooks system since the first dosing.

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 Post subject: Re: worm/mite treatment
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Thanks for that. We're actually treating for mites. I know we had success with it years ago but couldn't remember the withholding period. I too have retired. This was for my son's chookies. He's picked up the poultry baton so to speak and carrying on the good tradition.


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