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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 9:59 pm 
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For about 2 weeks now Chookie has been a bit off compared to what she normally is. Normally she would run across the yard to get to you. She seems to be a bit lethargic and sits a lot....even when she is eating. I checked to see if she was egg bound tonight which she does not seem to be but she seems to be quite heavy in weight. Her tail is a little droopy and her poop is a little runny. She hangs out with the other girls but she is also on her own a fair bit. She is not laying but the others are. She is not off her food, her comb is beautiful and red, she is happy to graze on grass and scraps and is vocal but I don't think she can be bothered scratching for bugs. Her claws are quite a bit longer than the other girls so I had to cut them, hoping that the claws might have been why she walks slowly but it has not made any difference. I have checked for bumblefoot and all is clear. When I catch her she is happy to sit on my knee with no attempt to get off. I washed her bottom the other day and she was happy to just sit in the warm water then when I pulled her out to dry her she just sat on my hand for about 20 minutes (very unusual). She has no lice and I could not see mites.

The only thing I noticed tonight while she was on my knee was that she was mouth breathing....like she is short of breath. She was a tiny bit wheezy but it was very faint. When I put her down she mouth breathed for a tiny minute then she seemed to stop. She has no bubbly eyes and has a clear nose.

I do not see her drinking fluids.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 12:04 am 
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Could you please copy and paste the checklist then answer as fully as possible. This will give us more chance of helping you.

**BASIC CHECK LIST FOR THE SICK BIRD**


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 8:19 am 
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BASIC CHECK LIST FOR THE SICK BIRD
Please answer these brief questions below, so we can help you as soon as possible.

Age: 4
Breed:Australorpe
Sex:Female

Your Location- country, state (different areas/climates have different problems)
ANSWER:
Sale, Victoria

What is wrong? What symptoms have you noted? - As much detail as possible please.
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A bit lethargic, slight runny poop, sometimes sits when eating, slight droopy tail, mouth breathing when she sits on my knee.

What are you feeding? - Please list everything you're feeding to your birds, including type of basic feed, free ranging, scraps, extras, etc. If possible give approximate percentages.
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Yellow yolk pellets, a free range mix from our produce place (I cannot think of the brand). Kitchen scraps. There is no exact amount. I scatter it on the ground.


Full droppings description.- colour, consistency, frequency, offensive smell.
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Colour seems normal. The first part seems normal with the last part a dark olive green very soft consistency. Not overly smelly.

Respiratory Changes?- eg. breathing sounds, discharge, laboured breathing, facial swelling
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Only very slight noise when breathing. No discharge in nose or eyes.

Digestive Changes?- eg. eating, drinking, crop filling & emptying
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Eats normal. Not sure how much she is drinking. I do not think it is much.

Condition Changes?- eg. Weight, comb/wattle colour, skin, feathering
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She feels heavy when picked up. Beautiful red comb. Beautiful feathers. I have checked if she is egg bound but could not feel anything.

Behavioural Changes?- inc. socialising, laying, crowing, broodiness
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Not laying and will sometimes spend time on her own.

Agility Changes? - eg. any lameness, favouring, energy levels
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Seems a bit lethargic and seems to sit a fair bit.

Describe your usual worming routine and products. [If none, say so and skip the next 3 worming questions.] Do you have a cycle that you use eg. every 3 months, or every six months?
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Piperazine Solution (from my vet)

1. When was the bird last wormed??- approximate date.
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About 3 months ago

2. What product was used to worm the bird, and how was it given? ? eg. in the drinking water, on the skin, by injection?
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I had to give 2.5 ml over 12 hours diluted. (she had a very bad mystery illness then but the vet could not find anything wrong. So we took all precautions. I put it down to a painful moult).

3. Was a follow up dose given? (eg. 10-14 days later)
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NO

Any other recent medications?- antibiotics, coccidiosis meds, herbal remedies, etc
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Yogurt and honey in porridge.

Other changes? – additions to the flock, diet, housing, extreme weather
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No changes other than wet weather

Photos? – any relevant photos are very helpful
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 8:46 am 
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It does sound quite non specific. She is a mature bird but not particularly elderly for an Australorp. She sounds to be in good condition.
I think that all you can do at this stage is continue to monitor her health and her behaviour and hope that she has something temporary (maybe viral).
I would do a follow up worming - use a product which also covers Tapeworm (Pipazine does not) - Moxidectin Plus or Worm out. You can also use Avitrol Plus but I prefer not to use this for an unwell chook as they need to fast before and after dosing. Worm out tablets may be available from a pet or produce place. Moxidectin Plus probably needs to be purchased on line.
Make sure that most of her diet is the layer pellets, with only a small quantity of grain as a treat in the afternoon. She may be coming into lay and needs plenty of protein. If she is selecting the high energy grains from the scratch such as corn or sunflower she may even be over weight. This can cause laboured breathing and lethargy.
Droppings sound OK. So long as they are not full of undigested grain or very green and runny her digestive processes are functioning properly.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 8:41 pm 
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Thanks again sue55. I must be honest I was a bit stumped with what could be wrong with her. Here are some photos I took today.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 6:44 pm 
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The white dropping staining the rear feathers is a sign of worms. Apart from that her postyre and attitude seems good.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:18 pm 
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Thanks Mike,


Do you or does anyone else know of a good regular seller of worm tablets on line? Any info would be appreciated :clnava


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:44 pm 
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Here you go, one of our members http://www.geckodan.com/the-chookshop/# ... te-control

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:28 pm 
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:-D Lovely......thanks John


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