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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:58 am 
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My hen's face was a little bit swollen on one side.
Her eye is also weeping and there were some little bubbles on Sunday too.
There also seems to be a little bit coming from her nose on the side that's infected but all liquids are clear and no funky smells.

I took her to the vet and they have given Baytril for 10 days, once every day. Yesterday was the 4th. dose.

Since I first noticed it on Saturday, she has been acting like her normal self. Running around, scratching, eating.
She has also just started to moult, so for the first time ever I decided to give 3 of my chickens a small tin of tuna in spring water to share.

When I got up this morning, she was moving slowly and didn't eat her favourite food of all time ... tomatoes. She looked at it, almost went to eat it, then walked away slowly.

Is she like this because I gave her tuna ? Does anyone else feed tuna ?
Has she got more than a sinus infection ?
Does it take a while for the Baytril to start making her better ? She has 6 more doses to go.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:15 am 
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Hi Joanne, no it was not the tuna

Chooks get colds (virus) as well as infections (bacterial) The fact that the discharge is clear and there is no smell makes me suspect the former. The antibiotics may have controlled an infection or they may have been prescribed to stop a virus leading to infection. Antibiotics generally show a result within 48 hours. Baytril is generally the antibiotic of choice for chooky respiratories. Finish the full course.
The fact that she is feeling unwell as well as moulting is probably making her feel very off colour. Keep her isolated and give plenty of TLC and encourage her to eat what ever she likes in the short term. She may eat a mash rather than dry food. Tinned cat food is a good protein/nutritional boost which will help her feather regrowth. If she declines or you are still worried about her - back to the vet.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:24 am 
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Thanks so much Sue !

I will buy a tin of cat food on the way home and she loves meal worms, so I'll get them out this afternoon too !

Hopefully she eats something, otherwise yes I'll be straight back to the vet.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:11 pm 
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So all she wanted was bread. Small pieces only, she's eating slowly. I might try some rolled oats warmed up in the microwave for her breakfast ?

We then gave her the dose of antibiotic and about 2 minutes later she vomited. I did not re-dose as I am unsure if she threw it all up or not.
I called the vet, they couldn't help because they were about to close and no-one there was able to help with whether I should re-dose.

She now also has watery poop. I wouldn't call it diarrhoea, as I would imagine that diarrhoea would be quite smelly and more like a watery mashed pea type consistency and perhaps even a bit greeny brown ?
But her poop was brown and like I said, watery and not that smelly. Could she just be drinking lots of water ?
Is this just the next stage of the virus ?

I also weighed her and she is about the same weight as she was on Sunday, if not a little bit more, like 50 to 100 grams more.

So, I will give her a dose of antibiotics tomorrow and hopefully she keeps it down ...
Would there be a huge problem with her missing a dose ?

Sorry for all the questions, but I worry !


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:53 am 
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So this morning she looks much better and really got into eating the porridge and fresh veggies I gave her for breakfast ... but I food a poop with a worm in it !!!!!!
I don't know who's poop it is though, so what do I do ?
Do I worm the whole flock ?
Also, do I need a wormer specific to this type of worm ?
I normally rely on apple cider vinegar with garlic for worming, but obviously this has not worked :(


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:55 am 
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Here is the worm !


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:02 am 
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The wormer the vets recommend is Moxydectin Plus which is an all wormer and includes tapeworms.

Phone your vet and ask his/her advice on when to dose and hopefully they will be able to sell you some.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:28 am 
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Okay, I phoned the vet and they said they can give me a wormer which goes on the chickens back.
They said they need to know how many chickens I have and their weight, so I'm not sure which brand this would be.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:47 pm 
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There a couple of good options which will also cover tapeworm (the Levamisole only products do not). Avitrol Plus and Wormout might be available from a local pet or produce place - Worm Out is best not used during moulting as it may cause 'funny' feather regrowth. Avitrol requires fasting before administration so I prefer not to use it for an unwell bird.
Some vets will sell Moxidectin or Cydectin (must have the 'Plus' to cover tapeworm) or it can be ordered on line from the Knox Bird Clinic or from Gecko Dan http://www.geckodan.com/the-chookshop/
The Dectins will target internal and many external parasites.
Worm your whole flock and do a follow up dose in 2 weeks. Now is a good time to worm as laying has slowed down and eggs should be with held for a couple of weeks.

ACV and garlic will not kill worms. It may aid by making the internal environment less hospitable to some worms.

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The wormer the vet has offered is likely to be Cydectin (Spot On) The worm in the pic looked like a tape. The product will need to contain Praziquantel. Take in a poo sample and ask them to have a look.

Some Tape Worm Poo pics from the gallery
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:37 pm 
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Thank-you again Sue !

But I think it might be roundworm. The body was really smooth, it didn't really have segments for the body if that makes sense ?


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:00 pm 
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I think you are right. Some roundworm pics

http://gallery.backyardpoultry.com/sear ... chid=57878


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:49 pm 
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She was so much better this afternoon ! Running around and eating everything she could ! :D

I have been to the vet and the wormer they gave me is a liquid to be fed by syringe (without the needle), so I will start this tomorrow.

The vet said that they will then start pooping out lots of worms ...


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:36 am 
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Great news, sounds like you caught what ever it was in good time. Also sounds like you have a good 'chook' vet. Many of them are not. Do a follow up dose with the wormer to get the hatchlings.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:43 pm 
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Just wondering, does anyone know how long it takes for the swelling of the sinus to go down ?
Her eye is still watery too.

Also, I wormed them yesterday afternoon and I have checked as many poops as possible and I can't see any worms in them ?
Shouldn't there be worms ?


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:05 pm 
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So the "sinus infection" which isn't actually infected hasn't gone down.
If anything, the swelling has increased. Her eye is still watering and there is a small white patch on the swollen part.
Will this go down eventually ?


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