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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:48 pm 
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Hi all!
We have 3 chickens, two of which seem healthy. However about 1-2 months ago our white chook slowed down (now stopped) laying and lost weight. The other 2 are still laying and have bright red combs! The white chook has put on a little more weight recently, but her comb is floppy and pale now too... She also has a little bit of green near her neck!
I did some research, and I think the most likely problem is either:

1) anemia due to mites/lice? And her recent weight gain may be due to the cold weather (mites aren't as problematic in winter)? She hasn't lost any feathers, so most likely mites??
2) green muscle disease? Seems to be degenerative and cause a restricted blood supply (maybe the pale comb is caused by this)?

If it is mites, how do I diagnose it? Should I go into their coop at night and use a bit of paper to see if it's red mites? Is it weird that the other chickens seem 100% healthy? Is it ok to eat their eggs still?

Thank you so much!!!


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:25 pm 
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Hi karamiller_aus and welcome to BYP.
Sorry to hear that your chook is not doing well. There are lots of very common reasons why she may be displaying these symptoms. Green muscle disease (had to google it) is not common in backyard poultry. It seems to affect commercial broilers and turkeys (meat) before they are slaughtered - so very young
Lice and mites are active all year and an already unwell bird is an easy target. (and yes, the eggs are fine to eat).
We need some more background/information in order to advise you about her care and treatment. Please would you click on the link below and copy and paste your answers back to this thread. Give us as much detail as you can.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:02 pm 
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Age: About 2, maybe 2.5
Breed: Unsure, white feathers, white eggs
Sex: Female

Your Location: Melbourne, Australia

What is wrong? What symptoms have you noted?

What are you feeding?
Seed, porridge, vegetable scraps, and anything leftover from dinner including meat


Full droppings description.
As far as I know normal, consistent size.


Respiratory Changes?
None

Digestive Changes?
None

Condition Changes?
Weight loss, pale comb, floppy comb (in that order). Recent weight gain again (yay). Also a strange green colour near neck/eyes.

Behavioural Changes?
None. Lives with 2 other chooks of same age, they are healthier and are probably more dominant than this chook.

Agility Changes?
None

Describe your usual worming routine and products.
None!

1. When was the bird last wormed??
N/A

Any other recent medications?
None

Other changes?
Not laying in last 1-2 months despite other chickens of same age laying regularly
Cold weather! Melbourne winter...


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:02 pm 
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Age: About 2, maybe 2.5
Breed: Unsure, white feathers, white eggs
Sex: Female

Your Location: Melbourne, Australia

What is wrong? What symptoms have you noted?

What are you feeding?
Seed, porridge, vegetable scraps, and anything leftover from dinner including meat


Full droppings description.
As far as I know normal, consistent size.


Respiratory Changes?
None

Digestive Changes?
None

Condition Changes?
Weight loss, pale comb, floppy comb (in that order). Recent weight gain again (yay). Also a strange green colour near neck/eyes.

Behavioural Changes?
None. Lives with 2 other chooks of same age, they are healthier and are probably more dominant than this chook.

Agility Changes?
None

Describe your usual worming routine and products.
None!

1. When was the bird last wormed??
N/A

Any other recent medications?
None

Other changes?
Not laying in last 1-2 months despite other chickens of same age laying regularly
Cold weather! Melbourne winter...


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:22 pm 
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OK thanks for that.
First - the green colour, is it on both sides? Does she have yellow skin/legs? Could it possibly be old bruising? Anaemia (green skin is symptomatic). Just clutching at straws here, hopefully some one else might have a better idea. I do suspect that it is related to her general condition.

Not laying - Not unusual over the Autumn. Most hens take a break from laying as the day length decreases (some commercial hybrids do not). They take this opportunity to moult, re feather and generally replenish their body reserves in preparation for laying to resume as the days become longer. During this time combs tend to lose colour. The colour returns as the hen approaches laying.
This process requires a well balanced diet with the nutrients supplied in appropriate ratios. Protein and calcium are particularly important but must be supplied in balance with other nutrients. I would start by replacing most of the current diet with good quality layer pellets or mash (not scratch). These are formulated to supply everything a chook needs for good health. Look for something with at least 15% protein listed on the bag. Calcium will be included at about 3% but you can also offer shell grit ad lib. Calcium is needed for the manufacture of egg shells. If it is not supplied adequately in the diet the hen will withdraw it from her bones.
Consider other food as treats - no more than 10-20% of the daily diet.

The pale floppy comb can also indicate anaemia - this should improve with a change of diet but could also be a symptom of a worm burden. This could also account for the loss of condition. Worm all your chooks with a product which covers tapeworm as well as the common poultry worms. Worm Out, Avitrol Plus or Moxidectin Plus are the products which will do this. Moxidectin Plus is available from the Knox Bird clinic. It treats internal and external parasites.

Check thru the feathers for lice (little brown bugs) Check below the vent and under the wings (arm pits) for lice eggs (little grey cocoons at the base of the feather shaft). If you find signs come back and ask for advice - they are simple to treat.
Check also under her butt for dirty feathers, signs of prolapse (insides out) or bad smells.
To check the pen for red mite do so at night with a torch. If there is an infestation you will see them on the surfaces, They come out at night to feed and hide in cracks during the day. A tissue rubbed on the perch should show 'bloody. If you find them - ask us for help.

Nb Your girls may object to a change of diet but are unlikely to allow themselves to starve.
Hopefully some of this will see an improvement in your white hen's condition. Possibly it is just seasonal.
Please come back with updates.


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