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 Post subject: staggering hen
PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 12:27 pm 
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Showy Hen
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I am about to go to supermarket and get yoghurt to feed her the Rickett's diet food from this site (which worked when she was two and was ill from heat stress)
Age: 6 years old
Breed: Orpington
Sex: hen

Your Location- country, state (different areas/climates have different problems)
ANSWER: Melbourne suburban

What is wrong? What symptoms have you noted? - As much detail as possible please.
ANSWER: Staggering, sometimes backwards, stumbling over and sitting a lot the last two days. Tail down. Appetite good.

What are you feeding? - Please list everything you're feeding to your birds, including type of basic feed, free ranging, scraps, extras, etc. If possible give approximate percentages.
ANSWER: Red hen free range, scratch, occasional handful of oats, the three chickens free range in the backyard all day


Full droppings description.- colour, consistency, frequency, offensive smell.
ANSWER: normal but haven't seen any at all today

Respiratory Changes?- eg. breathing sounds, discharge, laboured breathing, facial swelling
ANSWER: No

Digestive Changes?- eg. eating, drinking, crop filling & emptying
ANSWER: Not as far as I know except can't see droppings from today

Condition Changes?- eg. Weight, comb/wattle colour, skin, feathering
ANSWER: No change, combs and wattle good bright colour

Behavioural Changes?- inc. socialising, laying, crowing, broodiness
ANSWER: No

Agility Changes? - eg. any lameness, favouring, energy levels
ANSWER: Yes, staggering stumbling falling

Describe your usual worming routine and products. [If none, say so and skip the next 3 worming questions.] Do you have a cycle that you use eg. every 3 months, or every six months?
ANSWER: six months

1. When was the bird last wormed??- approximate date.
ANSWER: 4 months ago

2. What product was used to worm the bird, and how was it given? ? eg. in the drinking water, on the skin, by injection?
ANSWER: invermectin by skin

3. Was a follow up dose given? (eg. 10-14 days later)
ANSWER: No

Any other recent medications?- antibiotics, coccidiosis meds, herbal remedies, etc
ANSWER: No

Other changes? – additions to the flock, diet, housing, extreme weather
ANSWER: None

Also, since she was ill the first time, four years ago from heat stress, she only occasionally lays a soft shell egg (maybe once every three months during the night in laying season). I am concerned that she may have one of these lodged inside her. She's not used to being handled, so I don't want to distress her by picking her up.

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 Post subject: Re: staggering hen
PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:18 pm 
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The occasional soft shell egg wouldn't worry me. I doubt that's the issue here.

The symptoms she's showing make me think she's eaten somethg toxic (but I'd expect her not to be eating now and looking a lot worse..) or that she suffering from something neurological. That can be anything from a stroke to a tumour that's affecting her motor functions. Another possibility is that she's got a heap of worms. That can definitely cause staggering. Ivermectin doesn't treat all worm types. So the first thing I'd do is treat her with a different wormer and the one I'd go for would be Wormout tablets. See how she goes. Worm her again 10 days after the first dose, no matter how she's looking. Hopefully that will lead to an improvement.

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 Post subject: Re: staggering hen
PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:57 pm 
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Thank you! I'll head to the pet shop today and if no go the produce store tomorrow to find the Wormout.


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 Post subject: Re: staggering hen
PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:51 pm 
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What Rach said.


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 Post subject: Re: staggering hen
PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:11 pm 
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Thanks again for your advice. Worming didn't help my girl and she's still staggering (sometimes backwards) and often sitting down to eat off the ground (seed or grass). Sleeping more than usual. But her appetite is very healthy and she's alert and comes when called. I don't know how to tell if a chicken's in pain. I imagine it's nearly impossible. I guess I will wait another week or so and see if there's any improvement.


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 Post subject: Re: staggering hen
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:24 am 
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Sorry to hear that. Other than taking her to a vet there isn't much more you can do. Sounds like it might be neurological. I'd just wait and see what happens. She may not improve but she might not get any worse either.

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