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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 11:36 am 
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Location: Melbourne
Age: around 20-24 weeks? (breeder couldn't give me an exact age due to the large size of her mixed flock)
Breed: Bantam Plymouth Rock
Sex: female

Your Location- country, state (different areas/climates have different problems)
ANSWER: Melbourne

What is wrong? What symptoms have you noted? - As much detail as possible please.
ANSWER: Loss of weight. Very underweight, and was looking pale and hunched a week ago. Reduced energy levels. No longer hunched, nor unusually pale, but appetite is poor. I've got her indoors.

What are you feeding? - Please list everything you're feeding to your birds, including type of basic feed, free ranging, scraps, extras, etc. If possible give approximate percentages.
ANSWER: Entire flock had been switched to layer crumble recently, when the pullets had appeared to reach full size and some had developed red combs. The Plymouth Rock may have been slightly younger than the others. I can't say. So it may be that she should have been on pullet grower longer, but it wasn't practical to separate her. They also get a handful of scratch as a treat when I check them every morning, and greens every few days. Scraps as treats when I have appropriate stuff. I can't leave much food around because of the rat problem! They only have been free ranging for an hour or so every few days lately.

Full droppings description.- colour, consistency, frequency, offensive smell.
ANSWER: small droppings, due to small food intake. No blood in them, Not green. A week ago she had a bit of a messy bum, looked like loose droppings, yellowish. She'd been like this for a week or two, but not severely.

Respiratory Changes?- eg. breathing sounds, discharge, laboured breathing, facial swelling
ANSWER: No. Fine.

Digestive Changes?- eg. eating, drinking, crop filling & emptying
ANSWER: I had been checking her crop on the roosts at night (not every night) to see that it was full, as she was bought separately and didn't grow up here with the Grandpa feeders. I wanted to ensure she was confident using them, and getting enough food. Whenever I checked her, her crop was full. However, now I'm not sure that she was using it confidently. Maybe she has been losing weight gradually for weeks.

Condition Changes?- eg. Weight, comb/wattle colour, skin, feathering
ANSWER: Loss of weight. Was pale. Doesn't look pale now. I've bathed her and cleaned her bum and blow-dried her. A week later, not much mess on her bum (a small amount, not wet looking), but she's smelly.

Behavioural Changes?- inc. socialising, laying, crowing, broodiness
ANSWER: no.

Agility Changes? - eg. any lameness, favouring, energy levels
ANSWER: reduced energy.

Describe your usual worming routine and products. [If none, say so and skip the next 3 worming questions.] Do you have a cycle that you use eg. every 3 months, or every six months?
ANSWER: Usually Moxidectin Plus. Had not wormed flock since her arrival as I'd taken one bird to the Bird Vet recently and he'd tested her faeces for worms and found none. I assumed the whole flock were clear. But should have wormed her. I wormed her a week ago with Avitrol Plus as my Moxidectin was out of date. Have ordered more.

1. When was the bird last wormed??- approximate date.
ANSWER: 21 May

2. What product was used to worm the bird, and how was it given? ? eg. in the drinking water, on the skin, by injection?
ANSWER: Avitrol Plus directly.

3. Was a follow up dose given? (eg. 10-14 days later)
ANSWER: Will give Moxidectin Plus when it arrives.

Any other recent medications?- antibiotics, coccidiosis meds, herbal remedies, etc
ANSWER: I put her on Cocci treatment in a crate for 5 days. Even though I don't think she had it. I then switched her water to a dose of antibiotics Doxy-T. Have been keeping her warm and feeding her hard boiled eggs along with her usual crumble and treats to encourage her. She hasn't gained any weight in the week. I'm thinking I'll start crop feeding her, in case she's just lost so much weight that she's at the tipping point where her appetite has gone. She weighs 755 grams and feels very thin.

Other changes? – additions to the flock, diet, housing, extreme weather
ANSWER: Rat problem at the moment! Which makes it tricky. I can't leave a whole lot of food lying around for her or the Grandpa Feeder open. That's about it.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:44 pm 
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For the record, today sadly I think she may have the Visceral form of Mareks. She's been fed a lot but is gaining barely any weight and today looks to be favouring one leg and a little unsteady. Certainly depressed after being quite bright the last 2 days, eating a lot and having a little time out on the grass. The slightly messy bum is no worse, but to me it looks as though the food is going through undigested, which makes sense of her poor condition. Probably tumours in the internal organs. I would think she is not going to make it. It's a real shame. She's a lovely little girl.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:21 am 
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Very sorry to hear you believe the problem is Mareks.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:58 am 
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Does she has clean breath, Judy? If her crop has been full but she is not digesting, maybe here's an infection there? This type of infection is usually caused by yeast, so the doxy would not have helped.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:27 pm 
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Thanks Kirane and Okaru. I think it was definitely Mareks. Dead lame on one leg and dropped wing. I had her euthanised today. So sad to lose her. At least she was one of those cuddly chickens that loved being stroked so she went to sleep being stroked. I don't like their last moments to be fearful.

I'm going to see if the Bird Vet does Mareks immunisations or if it's just something that must be done on hatching. I might just cough up and get my future purchases immunised if it's possible.

Now I'll have to hope that the Brahma doesn't come down with it. The other two young ones were purchased as immunised day olds.

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