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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:11 pm 
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age:18 months
Breed:Pekin Bantam
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Your Location- country, state (different areas/climates have different problems)
ANSWER:NSW coastal

What is wrong? What symptoms have you noted? - As much detail as possible please.
ANSWER:Noticed comb going pale, then darken.Will rest with head on chest, then sparks up and moves around as normal eating and scratching. Weight light, passing unprocessed grain and grass.with brown fluid mixed in with normal poop. Dirty smelly bum. On inspection noticed round worms after I wormed her.
What are you feeding? - Please list everything you're feeding to your birds, including type of basic feed, free ranging, scraps, extras, etc. If possible give approximate percentages.
ANSWER:80% pellets all day, grains, cracked corn, sunflower, at night , free ranges all day. Have been offering yogurt, Mince, rice , pasta, carrots to encourage her to eat more.


Full droppings description.- colour, consistency, frequency, offensive smell.
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unprocessed grains, grass, smelly, some normal type poop and brownish fluid on board in morning
Respiratory Changes?- eg. breathing sounds, discharge, laboured breathing, facial swelling
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no change
Digestive Changes?- eg. eating, drinking, crop filling & emptying
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eating, prefers grass, grazing. crop not full at night
Condition Changes?- eg. Weight, comb/wattle colour, skin, feathering
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lost weight, comb/wattle goes pale then colours up as normal feathers normal
Behavioural Changes?- inc. socialising, laying, crowing, broodiness
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prefers to be by herself since she lost her mate to impacted crop
Agility Changes? - eg. any lameness, favouring, energy levels
ANSWER:
nil
Describe your usual worming routine and products. [If none, say so and skip the next 3 worming questions.] Do you have a cycle that you use eg. every 3 months, or every six months?
ANSWER:every 3 months cydectin on skin

1. When was the bird last wormed??- approximate date.
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2 weeks ago
2. What product was used to worm the bird, and how was it given? ? eg. in the drinking water, on the skin, by injection?
ANSWER:Cydectin 4 weeks ago , Panacur 2 weeks ago, Piperazine in water 3 weeks ago

3. Was a follow up dose given? (eg. 10-14 days later)
ANSWER:
no
Any other recent medications?- antibiotics, coccidiosis meds, herbal remedies, etc
ANSWER:
Gave Nilstat by mouth today
Other changes? – additions to the flock, diet, housing, extreme weather
ANSWER:
lost her mate 2 month ago. Does get chased away from food by big girls so now separate her in the morning, she does not like that.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:42 pm 
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None of the worming products cover tape worm - poop pics?
The brown runny morning poo is normal caecal poo.
At least for now, I'd cut out the grains - if they are passing straight thru she is getting no nutrition from them. For now, I would keep her penned with only access to pellets - they contain all she needs for good nutrition and are easily digested.
The other grains and fibres should start their break down in the gizzard. If they are passing straight thru, she may have a problem there but start with the Tape worm option.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:25 am 
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This is the pic I took when I first noticed she was off colour. I will get post a poop picture later. So I treat with Praziquantel.ie droncit?Would it be ok if I used the horse paste form. I prefer direct to mouth.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 2:22 am 
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I tried to work out a horse paste dose for a chicken once - turned out that the dose was too small to accurately measure.
Avitrol Plus tablets or wormout tablets both cover tapeworm and are easy to administer.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:49 am 
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Just wondering, some of us are just getting some rain after a long time without. This means all parasites, including cocci could be getting going. Although cocci dont usually cause massive problems in grown birds, she might not have had a chance to build up immunity because it has been so dry and fewer have been about. Perhaps consider adding some amprolium to the mix?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:53 pm 
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My Pekin went to bed tonight with a full crop, the first time in days. I ended up getting a small dog drontal wormer tab and gave her a 1/4. I also gave her amoxicillin tabs twice a day for 3 days. I did consider cocci so gave her some amprolium in water via a syringe. She was not too good yesterday still had her head on her chest picking at food but this morning I could see she looked bright and was hungry.
One thing I did notice last night and today is she had a good pick at the shell grit. It will be interesting to see whats on the poop board in the morning. I am so happy she ate today.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:53 pm 
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Good news. I hope she keeps improving.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:37 pm 
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My little splash pekin is doing well. Eating more, no longer has her chin on her tummy and her comb has stopped going pale. Her poop is not 100% normal though. I think the dog drontal tab made her a bit off colour for a day or two.


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