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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 9:59 pm 
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Hi

Im only a beginner but have seen heaps of photos on the internet with eggs in the frying pan with water tray and a tray to sit the eggs on.
What I want to know is does it work, I bought one of those cheap 3 egg incubators and its not working so will have to start again with more eggs.
Have tried to get a cheap incubator with no luck so just wondered if this is an option.

Any help would be appreciated

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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 10:33 pm 
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Jayaus,

Anything is worth a go, I have read about them being used as well, not sure how successful they were.

There are some second hand incubators around on ebay etc and Maino often do deals for a month or so, so keep your eyes out for ads in Australaisan poultry for some cheapies.

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Actually I am sitting here soak testing an incubator controller/monitor I have made. This thing also hooks into my computer via the serial port and I can log the data.
So I will try it out as there is an electric frypan in kitchen.

First run will be with my controller/monitor calling the shots. If that goes well I'll try using the frypans regulator and monitor and log the results.

If neither goes well Jocler has some great omelet recipes.

I can get started as soon as other half goes to bed ....


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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:36 am 
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Let us know how you go.
There has to be a way to make it work before we resort to omelettes :D
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Janet, I was wondering if you saw this thread on another board. A
lady documented her frypan incubation from setting to successful
outcome. She is a member on another forum and I could probably
put you in email contact through a mutual friend if you so desired.

http://www.eboards4all.com/539153/messages/10775.html

:)

As the posts spanned over 3 weeks you may need to search a bit to get them all from the archives - there was a lot of interest and some tweaks were made along the way. The photos in the above link don't seem to be available , though...


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Ok that's the first run overnight.

I am having a LOT of trouble getting the thing set at the temperature I want. The trouble is just the miniscule amount I need to turn the knob. This is compounded by the fact it takes about an hour to settle properly to the new temperature.
Its an empty electric frypan with the monitor probe sitting roughly where I would expect eggs to be.
I think I am wasting my time going any further with this experiment. I would really need to set it up with eggs and water etc. The above graph is a bit all over the shop because it includes my "adjusting".

If I had no other option I would certainly try it. It may however take about a week to get it to the right temperature. It is really hard because a very very small (and we are talking the proverbial bee here) turn of the knob lifts the temperature about degree or two. And you need to wait an hour or more for it to settle.

If you look at the following graph where I haven't been trying to adjust, it seems pretty good regulation to me. I just need to adjust it a bit higher. Did I mention it is really hard to to do this...

[img][img]http://members.optusnet.com.au/~denisboc/graph4.jpg[/img]







[img][img]http://members.optusnet.com.au/~denisboc/graf2.jpg[/img]

I'd be very careful if the frypan got cool say a power outage as on heating up again the momentum looks pretty dangerous.


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Hey there,

Check these out:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Complete-Hatch-System-PLUS-Incubators-GQ12200_W0QQitemZ140120327373QQihZ004QQcategoryZ66905QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

They also have more which they sell from their ebay store:
http://stores.ebay.com.au/Double-R-Pet-Farm-Equestrian-Supply

I bought the complete hatch system, (like the one listed above) as it was cheaper than any others from Australia. (These guys usually post them to Australia for a cheaper price than Australian Companies).

I would recommend that if you dont want the complete hatch system that you get one with a fan rather than still air.

Plenty of different types/models that they sell, this is the one i went for and have had excellent results.

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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 8:58 pm 
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hi

Many thanks for those links I will have a look just now

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We successfully hatched eggs using a frypan way back when I was a school. As my son would say "in the olden days".

I remember that we had sand in the bottom that the eggs sat on & a small glass of water & a thermometer. We turned them daily.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:03 pm 
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Hi

many thanks for that.

Well its day 19 and Im still not sure if there is anything in there.
The temp has stayed at 100F throughout and we have a small container of water in there as well as turning them 3 times a day.

We can see the air sac and the yolk but cannot see any veins or red dots on it.

Have trying candling but still not sure???????

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At Day 19 you should be able to see a whole lot of nothing :lol:

The air sac when candled should take up about 1 to 2 thirds of the eggs, with the rest of the egg in darkness.

Now that you are ad day 19, I would advise that you add an extra or larger water container, discontinue turning, and not open the incubator for the remainder of the 21 days.

With any luck, your candling may prove you wrong :D

Good luck, Keep us updated :)

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:47 pm 
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Hi

Thanks for that I will keep you all posted

You said not to turn the eggs as Im at day 19 but these are duck eggs and Im told will take 28 days to hatch so do I still stop turning or continue until closer to the due date of hatching??????

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:51 pm 
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Now you tell me! :lol:

Or was I just too lazy not to read back through the posts... :lol:

In this case, continue turning the eggs until day 25.

With my duck eggs, I usually have the same amount of water in the incubator, but also spray the eggs with water once or twice per day.

This will help to keep the humidity up and will also stop the eggs from becomming to hard.

Sorry about the confusion 8)

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:52 pm 
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Hi

Okay thanks will continue till day 25 and stop turning and do I continue spraying right up to day 28.

many thanks for helping a novice

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Everyone has to start somewhere! :D

I stop spraying at day 25, unless for some reason I have to open the incubator then I will spray them again just before I close it.

Good luck.

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