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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:33 pm 
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:help: I'm not often on this site but I know some of the best chook brains are.

I am assuming I have a fungus or bacteria in one of my hovabators .
I work green normally and try not to use chemicals but I think this time I need to .
I have 42 eggs in the incubator and the same in my other .
Eggs are 50% post and 50% mine split between both .The sick incubator all but 6-7 eggs appear to have died ,the other incubator is fine (hence my diagnosis.)
I usually use colloidal silver and vinegar for cleaning .I'm assuming the bacteria of fungus has come in on a egg or whatever .
Anyway what is the best product to use to clean and sterilize it .

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:45 pm 
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Virkon S is something I always keep around and use on the incubator.

http://www.ranvet.com.au/virkon.htm

http://www.getprice.com.au/VIRKON-S-50G ... 484303.htm

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 3:34 pm 
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annie yokie wrote:
:help: I'm not often on this site but I know some of the best chook brains are.

I am assuming I have a fungus or bacteria in one of my hovabators.

Your assumption could be incorrect. But, then ... I do not have a chook brain.


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 Post subject: Re: sterilize incubator
PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:22 pm 
I have cottoned onto Milton, its a food container steriliser. More commonly used as a babay bottle steriliser.

I put into a small container half miltonn and half water mix, dip in cottonballs and wipe EVERYTHING (after cleaning any 'bits' off with warm soapy water).
Then the bator is let dry in the fresh air while still pulled apart.

You'll find it in the baby isle in a blue bottle.


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What a good idea Donna...i will get some Milton....

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Is it a foam type incubator ???

If it is just simply wash it in warm soapy water, rinse it and then stick it out in the sun to dry and sterilise. Both fungi and bacteria need a level of moisture to survive and neither can tolerate UV light and dry conditions together.

I dont like chemical cleaners in a foam incubator because it clings to the foam and becomes "volatile" in the warm humidity and can be absorbed into the eggs.

This is assuming that the incubator is functioning perfectly in the first place.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:04 pm 
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Thanks .
The incubator is a foam type I normally do the soap /sun heat thing and once in a while the vinegar /colloidal silver .
I am sure its working properly .I have 2 hygrometers in it ...no massive heat or cold spikes(.5 either way) and humidity OK .Fan is working well .
They all seem to have died 2-4 days ago .The alive ones look weak and may be dying .Today is day 10
The other incubator they are all strong.

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There used to be a sterilizing gas made on the spot by mixing formalin and condeys crystals. I'm not sure of the amounts as I've not used it in about 30 years. Thinking about it now, it sounds rather aggressive. From memory you leave the incubartor running, put the condeys in a ceramic dish then pour in the formalin. The mix foams away and makes clouds of gas. This sterilizes the inside of the incubator. I very much doubt however that it would be suitable for a foam incubator.


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Yes - that was an old way of sterilising incubators. And.. it was effective in the upright wooden types. However, formaldehyde is now a restricted substance as a known carcinogen and you need a restricted users licence to obtain it. Typically the users licence is only granted to museums for specimen presevation and places like histology laboratories and some manufacturing industries.

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It's not a fungus or bateria killing your chickens. Just do what Mike says and your incubator will be clean and safe and free from harmful chemicals. Soap and sunlight will kill it, how much more dead do you need it to be.
You need to look elsewhere to find why your eggs didn't hatch.

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I work green normally and try not to use chemicals but I think this time I need to ...

I usually use colloidal silver and vinegar for cleaning .I'm assuming the bacteria of fungus has come in on a egg or whatever .
Colloidal Silver is not working green and it is a chemical. It used to be used a lot in conventional medicine until they realised it hard some nasty side effects .... the same with some of the other chemicals mentioned, e.g formaldehyde.
For goodness sake if the professionals don't use it, then you shouldn't.

Colloidal Silver is promoted by some as "alternative" but they are just preying on the fact that for all their beliefs and good intentions a lot of "alternative people" are quite naive and uneducated about these kinds of issues.

The question I would ask is: What "preventatives" or remedies are you feeding your chooks.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:27 pm 
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Denis wrote:
It's not a fungus or bateria killing your chickens. Just do what Mike says and your incubator will be clean and safe and free from harmful chemicals. Soap and sunlight will kill it, how much more dead do you need it to be.
You need to look elsewhere to find why your eggs didn't hatch.

:thumbs: Some surgeons even use soap and water for cleaning wounds, like they did in the 'old days'.

Denis wrote:
The question I would ask is: What "preventatives" or remedies are you feeding your chooks.
Hi Denis,

would you please explain what you are referring to?.
It sounds very interesting.


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 Post subject: Re: sterilize incubator
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I have done plenty of research into colloidal silver,particularly after bad reports were posted worldwide.
Its been found it to be a safe and and amazing product .
The medical in fact use silver .It is one of the few substances found to be effective in healing wounds that respond to no other form of medical treatment.
It is used as a lining in some plasters and wound dressings .The research stemmed from difficulties in healing burns and orthopaedic
injuries.
Colloidal silver is is an Ionic form of the metal in a distilled water base.It has been shown to kill fungus bacteria and moulds.

The bad reports stem mainly from over and incorrect use as applies to any product medical or otherwise .
Common Sense and knowledge should determine the use of any product.


I feed my birds Homeopathics (Its our modality ) and sometimes herbs as well as a range of other safe natural products.


All products we use a well researched before use.

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 Post subject: Re: sterilize incubator
PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:30 am 
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You can't get much greener than letting a hen hatch the eggs for you.

Hands up those who feel the need to sterilize their broody hen and the nest materials.

In all things a bit of common sense serves you best.


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