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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:04 pm 
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Where did you find the perforated metal sheet?
I've had a good look around but can't find anything at least 380X500. Closest I can find is 380X300 which I could get two of and cut it down but I'd be looking at around $50.
Eggs were due to hatch yesterday but no deal yet :-(
They were wobbling all over the place this morning though so I'm hopeful to have chicks when I get home from work!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:52 pm 
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Still no hatch unfortunately. Hopefully by the morning!
I have another heater on the way but I'm worried that 2X 200w heaters is a bit extreme!
Obviously the temp controller will keep them in check but I'm curious about power efficiency.
With 3 fans and 2 heaters I'm sure it will be nice and even temp at least!
I also ended up making a slatted plywood base as I couldn't find perforated metal for reasonable cost.
I'll post some pics tomorrow :-)

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:26 pm 
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False bottom for better air flow. Will leave room below this for water trays.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:26 pm 
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Fans going into the box


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:27 pm 
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Heater in front of fan. A little crooked but too late now!


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:31 pm 
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Draw slide on egg turner.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:23 am 
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Getting closer!


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:58 am 
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It's looking great.
Will you use a separate hatcher? The timber rails will be hard to clean.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:01 pm 
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Thanks! Has been slow but I really wanted it to look good. I'm thinking I will coat the false bottom in some spray on something or other waterproof so that it can be washed.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:20 pm 
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Well we finally shut down the incubator at the end of day 24 after candling the eggs and seeing no movement.
They were going crazy wobbling around on day 21, my wife even heard one cheeping in the egg.
We checked them open and some were completely developed. Not sure what went wrong :-(
Humidity was 40-45 to day 18 and then 70 from then.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:10 am 
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Rotten luck - how disappointing
First thought is the quality of the eggs - breeding stock nutrition. If this is poor the chicks don't have the stamina to break out.
Another possibility is pullet eggs - they tend to have harder shells than those from older birds, although you would expect at least some success.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:59 am 
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Hmm. They're a very happy / healthy flock that free range all day on my land and have access to laying pellets. Some are around a year old and the rest are 10 months.
We're very sad and disappointed!

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:06 am 
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Try changing the layer pellets to a breeder feed (eg Lauke Showbird Breeder) with a high protein 17- 18% and don't let them free range until the afternoon when they have filled up on this - perhaps worth doing this with a small test group. Too much free range 'dilutes' the balance offered by the pellets unless they are on really good pasture with lots of ' wild protein'.
I do this all year but in the past the breeders were on a 'controlled' breeding diet for about 6 weeks prior to setting eggs.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 10:03 am 
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Yeah great. I live 20minutes femme Lauke Mill which is convenient. You think it's unlikely that there were issues with the incubation then if they were so far developed?
When we cracked them the shells were quite hard to break. The chicks were quite slimy with the yolk on their chest.
When candling we could see that some hadn't developed their air cells properly but a few of the initial 8 had.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:46 am 
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:morebow WOW. That is some serious workmanship in that wooden false floor. Congrats.
Have a feeling your missus is going to get a superb kitchen.

Just paint the timber as you would your house walls etc. Big tip is to vacuum your incubator after a hatch and then wipe it clean.
You can buy some rolls of very thin rubberised cloth that is used to put under vases etc. to stop them slipping. Put it under the eggs when you stop turning as it will lift out most of the chicken poop with it and you can wash it in a sink. At $2 shops.

Your humidity might the culprit. Humidity isn't important like temperature is.
What is important is that the egg loses the right amount of moisture. The humidity is a way of controlling how much moisture the egg loses.
What is important is that by about day 18 you have lost the right amount of moisture. You can check how you are doing throughout the hatch either by weighing the eggs, see http://forum.backyardpoultry.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7995946 or by candling the egg and comparing it with charts. If your eggs appear to be not losing enough moisture you may need to run your incubator dry for days or weeks until they catch up. All eggs are likely to be different yours may be thicker and harder to lose moisture.


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