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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 4:07 pm 
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Do cockerels still start to crow regardless of whether they are all in together or do they only start crowing when they are the only cockerel in their group?

I have this years hatchlings a two different age groups ie. in two different pens.

The first lot are about 2-3 months old...two pullets & the pick cockerel. The cockerel started to crow the day after the other cockerels were removed. :doh

The second lot are 4 weeks old and comprise of 4 pullets & 8 cockerels which I am not able to sort until they get a bit older.

I was wondering if I left all the second group of cockerels together would they all start to crow at the same age or would they hold off crowing until they were the only cockerel left? Are they put off crowing if they are in with other cockerels?


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Saltwood - in my experience I think if they are cockerels they just crow - no matter the circs. But I usually don't get more than 2 at any one time so that may make a difference.


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yep - me too. If they are boys they crow hahahaha

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Arrrggghhh!! :nuts

I was hoping that peer group pressure would keep them busy so they couldn't start crowing until they had time by themselves to practice in peace.
Obviously there will be some BIG decisions coming up soon!


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Saltwood wrote:
Arrrggghhh!! :nuts

I was hoping that peer group pressure would keep them busy so they couldn't start crowing until they had time by themselves to practice in peace.
Obviously there will be some BIG decisions coming up soon!
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That's very cute : ) :)


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So now I can speak from experience......

In one area I had the last two of the cockerels in with 6 pullets/hens whilst I made my decision on which cockerel I would keep.
One cockerel decided he was boss, organised the girls and totally ignored the other cockerel.

The dominant cockerel crowed at every opportunity, whilst the subservient cockerel never crowed at all and kept his head down so as not to be noticed.

I sold the dominant cockerel and a pullet yesterday....this morning the subservient cockerel, being the 'last man standing', started to crow.
It is a very croaky crow but I am sure he is going to practice and get it up to speed. :roll:


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I think in chicken talk, they're saying "it's time to eat me!"
I have 5 that are starting to crow. It's not annoying yet but I'm sure it will be soon!

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It is true that all cockerels will eventually crow; some at quite an early age, some quite late.

I am trying to recall how it goes with a mixed pen of growers…

It is possible they crow less and later in their development. It’s also possible that six cockerels in a pen together will crow collectively less than they would individually if they were the only one in the yard. Part of this is that a bachelor group in particular form a sort of collective brotherhood that has different dynamics to one male with a group of females. The jostling and posturing for dominance and the friendship they have formed since young if raised together is a little unique.

I do feel that when I have half a dozen roosters on site it doesn’t seem like I have six times the crowing. Six roosters don’t “seem” to make much more collective noise than about two of them.

I think… (I might just become desensitised to the crowing after a point).

One thing I have noticed: if you have six roosters peacefully coexisting with each other and you remove one to take to a show or use in a breeding pen, when you return the extracted rooster to the pen with the others all hell breaks loose. They seem to have a very short memory. :rofl:

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 Post subject: Re: Crowing cockerels
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Yep, I think that once you change the dynamics in a group, all bets are off!
I had another 2 SLW cockerels in with a group of mixed sex RIR's. They were all much the same age ie. 2mths old and none of them were crowing.

I gave 1 of the SLW cockerels away today and moved the remaining SLW cockerel out to another area by himself ....he immediately began to do the croaky crow thing.

The remaining RIR's still are not crowing but they seem to mature later than the Wyandottes.


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