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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:54 pm 
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:doh I am utterly confused about the application of D.E to either my chickens or in their food, or the coop or bedding. Let alone me trying not to breathe in the dust. I don't walk around with a mask all day just in case I am going to hang out with the chooks. Now I am told it kills bees. Can't win. :aaah!
My question is have they come up with something else that is natural that can prevent mites, lice, worms?
I have tried garlic in feed, ACV in their water, clean out their coop daily and remove bedding weekly. I also de worm with Kilverm its the only one that hasn't got too many chemicals. I really thought D.E was perfect but I am reluctant to use it anymore.
Any suggestions please. :th


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 Post subject: Re: D.E equivalant
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:36 pm 
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You have nothing to worry about unless you are dusting flowers with it.

Yes it will kill bees but it's not a systemic pesticide and some airborne dust is not going to wipe out your local honey bees or your native bees. In fact some beekeepers are using it within their hives [in traps] to control Small Hive Beetle which is a bee hive parasite.

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 Post subject: Re: D.E equivalant
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:57 pm 
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Thanks Milo, phew, I can resume as before then. No I don't put it near the garden, just their coop. Much appreciated.


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Why are you treating them so much? There's no need to treat for lice and mites unless the birds have them, so it's actually better to use something that is highly effective once rather than something only moderately effective lots times.


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 Post subject: Re: D.E equivalant
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:20 am 
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I put it in their nesting area a layer under them then the straw.


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 Post subject: Re: D.E equivalant
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:02 pm 
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DE is a useful preventative, as is Pestene. I was very dubious about it but tried it anyway and found, to my utter astonishment, that it really does bring mites down to a dull roar.

After I've gone "shock and awe" on them, anyway, which involves every pest-control mechanism I can lay my little hands on. :)


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 Post subject: Re: D.E equivalant
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:01 pm 
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andrewshooks, I am not treating them all the time. I am just saying what I am using when the need arises, and is it ok to use D.E. I got my answer from Milo saying it was a safe alternative to use D.E


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