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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2018 6:47 pm 
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Something to keep in mind: Some feeds are not suitable for chickens.
http://www.the-chicken-chick.com/the-shocking-effect-of-oatmeal/

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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2018 9:30 pm 
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Hey Globi, keep up with the tour leader. This topic was hashed out (from the same link) two or three months ago.
See: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=8041404&p=834338&hilit=feeding+oats#p834338
for some pros and cons.

I think it is a load of rubbish, but glad to be proved wrong. I do continue to feed my lot with a mix comprising 25% milled oats, nobody has dropped dead yet and they look okay. Don't like to disagree with someone with a highly qualified background, but I find this a bit scaremongering still.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:48 am 
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Thank you PossumCorner, I didn’t know it has been discussed already.
And sorry, I can only agree partially.
The question is not ‘do chickens survive oats’ but ‘are they necessary or is there something better?’.
I am much more suspicious about products like your Anitone, which is according to their website a product of obscure origin and doubtful composition, but perhaps you have done the calculations.
What worries me is the scientific research paper at http://thescipub.com/PDF/ajisp.2017.45.49.pdf mentioned in TookTook’s original post.
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There are different types of β-glucans. Glucans from
cereals such as barley and oats, have very detrimental
effects on poultry health and performance. The inclusion
of some of the varieties of barley and oats in poultry diets
is made possible by supplementation with feed enzymes
which digest the β-glucan.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:54 pm 
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It's all good conversation and good information. I don't add enzymes as such intentionally, but they are naturally occurring as well as being a chemical additive if that's the right word. My lot eat an extraordinary amount of apples only because I have orchard access - I'd been looking for pros and cons of apples in feed, and this CSIRO link mentions natural enzymes which I guess if they brown apples would also have a breakdown use in the gut. But who knows, I'm not a nutritionist (tho I worked at CSIRO in the past).

https://blog.csiro.au/apples-no-longer- ... -bruising/


Anitone was originally formulated as a camelid supplement - commissioned because little research had been done for them and the need was so great. So it is the best available for alpaca owners, and its suitability for horses, sheep, dogs, poultry wasn't the original purpose, just how it worked out.

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