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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:43 pm 
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:help: hi, i have had 3 vorwerk hens for nearly a year and always been in great condition with good weights and appetites,never had any illnesses.just recently,one was dead in the morning,then 4 days later,another was dead ! now it was top chook and 2nd in charge that died.i have always used sugar cane mulch for the pens but this bale smelt slightly sour but i used it anyway,lately i just couldnt get any bales that were dry and fresh i got 2 previous and they both really smelt off and i took them back to produce store,it seems to be after a lot of rain so moisture must be getting in.the only other thing i can think of is i was keeping a big bag of scratch mix in a sulo bin in the backyard which would probably have heated up.i checked it,smelled it and it looked fine so do you think the sugar cane could be the culprit or the hot seed ? there was no visible mould or any problem i could see with the seed.its frustrating and worrying as im scared to check them every morning now.the crop on the dead birds was spongey and i noticed there was hardly any poo under theyre sleeping perch and no eggs for a week prior.i can rule out disease and egg binding.they are due to be wormed next month.i did notice the night before the 2nd one died,she was walking and moving very slow as if she had some pain somewhere but had been active and normal that morning.looks like theyve eaten something sinister but theres no baits used or anything i can see in the coop.ive kept chooks in there for 11 years with no problems.has anyone had a similar experience or maybe think of something it could be ?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:50 am 
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Sorry to hear this, nothing worse than seemingly healthy birds dying.

After what you have said about the mulch, aspergillosis could be a candidate, a couple of links here, note that some birds show few symptoms. viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8022040 https://todaysveterinarypractice.com/ma ... eeds-know/

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:52 pm 
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thanks squeaker,seems like something like that,since taking out most of the mulch and chucking the seed the surviving one seems fine.i really want to put something down on the dirt floor but im nervous about it now :aaargh:

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:17 pm 
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another one gone this morning so took the body to the vet for a post mortem, i need to find out what is claiming all my girls :-(

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:29 pm 
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Well results are back and I can’t believe it, all they found was a lot of roundworms so I feel really bad for them as it was preventable deaths.despite the fact i worm them 4 monthly with wormout tabs so I don’t know how they could have got such a bad infestation like that.i will now worm with a follow up a few weeks later

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Don't beat yourself up Karlisa, I can't recall any posts on here over a lot of years, about round worms killing several chooks in a short period of time. Especially when they have been wormed regularly.

Good chance they died of something else

Did an avian vet do the autopsy?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:24 pm 
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hi squeaker,
it was done at the exotic animal hospital at camden,they do specialize in birds.i have yet to speak to the vet in depth as he was not in again till monday.i know birds with heavy worm burdens are usually scruffy,under weight etc mine were heavy and looked pristine.anyway if i was to lose another then i would know it wasnt worms as the 2 newer birds are in that pen and have been wormed a few days ago and i'll do them again in about 2-3 weeks.if i lose another i will be giving up on keeping chooks if a vet cant diagnose the problem.but hopefully he is right.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:15 pm 
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for anyone interested in the outcome,one of the staff told me the bird had a lot of roundworm parasites but ive since spoken to the vet and he says theres no evidence of worms in the report ? i couldnt believe that worms couldve been the cause anyway,so misled there, and now he's saying she was eggbound and....(quote) 'what killed hazel is a reproductive and tumour issue'.so this would have to mean that the other 2 that died days before this one mustve had the same condition although at least one of them was laying every second day or so.so im really no wiser with this situation.autopsy report in my case was a waste of time and money.

squeaker you were right !! (quote) Good chance they died of something else

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Unfortunately none of that surprised me, just a shame you wasted that money without getting some sort of result.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:00 pm 
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yes thats right, im none the wiser,it could of been leukosis thats the only thing that kinda fits the symptoms but i'll never know,ive f10sc sprayed the entire pen and let it dry so hoping the new ones will be ok.its a shame chookyinoz isnt on the forum anymore he was good with diagnosing ailments

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He still gets around on the facebook page I think.

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well its a while after my last post but still this issue is going on. after the 3 vorwerks died and i cleaned out the pen completely and f10sc disinfectant used everywhere i bought 5 young pullets from different places and they were going good until the first one i had bought went from norma,l to white runny poo,stopped laying and walked around really slow and looked very depressed so took her to the vet and they said she is probably not going to recover but didnt know what was wrong so i had her euthanised and autopsied and they found she had eggs stuck but not eggbound as such, and thought it was egg perionitis.now, i have another one,they seem to go in order that i purchase them ? it does seem like egg yolk perionitis as the symptoms are all there but i dont know why they would all be getting it as its not catchy? has anyone had this condition treated successfully? these will be my last girls if they all get it as i cant bear the stress and heartache of losing them in such a painful way :upset:
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