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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:27 pm 
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I just saw the photos and see how that would be the way to go but I have some newby chookie questions.

My silkie roosters have only just started getting spurs - about 1/2cm. When do I start cutting them? Should I round them off with a file until they are long enough to cut? How long do I cut them? The photo looks about 1 inch - is that right?

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Good question car2522. I haven't ever cut the spurs on a rooster. Though my second one ended up being put down as he would attack me at shoulder hight when my back was turned.

I'd also like to know the following.....

    do you have to cut the spurs seasonally or is it a 1 off thing?
    Should this be done to all roosters or just show roosters?
    Should I do Radar my Light Sussex Bantam?

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have you seen this article? I found it to be very helpful:
http://www.poultryhelp.com/spurs.html

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I just read the article and was surprised. The bone that runs down the spur - do people actually cut through the bone?? I would rather file the tip but is that not good enough?

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I just cut and file the end off. Seems Ok so far. I do it at night when he's sleepy and it's quite easy.

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some birds spurs grow faster than others. sometimes once a year is enough but sometimes twice.

if you notice the point of spurs can be very sharp. i sugest at least filing them, especially in the heavier ckls.

if you look at a rooster walking you will notice long spurs will interfer with his agility.

it is part of husbandry to keep spurs neat, by this i mean short and rounded off.

i feel a trimmed spur means the owner cares about the bird. ....not unlike keeping away parasites. in the show pen it adds th final touches.

i have had sussex hens that have need their spurs cutting.
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Hi everyone
About cutting the spurs, I've just purchased a silkie roo and found
his spurs to be about 1 inch long, maybe longer.
They are obviously way too long, but how much should I cut off them, and like a toenail, if you cut too much off will they bleed?

The poor rooster has been neglected for a while, so I've taken pity
on him and plan to spruce him up and having him looking as good as
I can get him. :)

I Hate it when people who own pets can't be bothered
to put the time and effort in to looking after them properly. :evil:

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hello chookgirl,

i think the original part of this discussion has be moved, here is the short cut:

http://forum.backyardpoultry.com/viewto ... 9801#39801

i think 1cm long is about a good length to cut the spurs to. they will bleed when more than the tip is cut off. however using the angle grinder method the cut is cauterized (burned) by the heat produced by the grinder. this method is less traumatic than cutting with toenail clippers or a hacksaw. hacksaw usually bleeds but there is pressure applied to the joints during the process and it can be slow. using clippers will bleed and leaves are very rough cut.

if the cut still bleeds with the angle grinder run it back over the cut for a second or 2 and this will do the trick.

to neaten the cut up for a show it is best to do it about 2 weeks before the show and then just gently polish it with some medium sandpaper the day before the show.
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Thanks Ruff. An angle grinder you say. :shock:
Not sure if I could use one. And with the sight of blood
I'm more than likely to faint :shock:
Could I possibly use something else? And maybe cut a little
back at a time? Maybe the best solution for a whimp like me
is to take him to the vet to have them cut off most of the length
and that way I can keep them trimmed from them on.
But what to use?

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Chookgirl,

You would likely find the vet would panic as well :)

If you cant use an angle grinder, what about a pair of pincers (the ones farriers use) they are quite sharp and give you a fair amount of mechanical leverage......unless you want to use something like bolt cutters.

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Thanks jocler
Sounds more like what I'd use. I'll give the bolt cutters a go. :shock:
I'll be sweating it just before I'm to make that first cut :shock:
I'm no good when it comes to this stuff. :oops:

If worse comes to worse, I'll get my gruesome brother-in-law
to do it. He has bulls and cuts their you-know-what's off. :shock:
He's forever telling me about it, so he can gross me out.
He's definetly NOT afraid of blood.

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the angle grinder is about the only way it does not give blood. if you take it slowly but surely. although my other half who was doing it said he should wear gloves. i was more concerned with the pekins feathers getting tangled. usually it is done for me on an angle grinder that is set on a bench. and to tell you the truth....he always does it for me and he has 3 indian roosters lining up when he comes home next.

however if the spurs are not too long you can cut from where the spur starts to taper to a point.

yes i have not much faith in vets either.

i think the only way to learn is to start now. but cutting with a new quality hacksaw blade and removing that tip will give you a little experience and maybe your confidence will grow from there. it is a job that needs to be done and not many roosters develop without spurs and sometimes hens need them cutting too.

when i do my big heavy roosters i usually get covered in blood and chicken blood takes ages to get off jeans. i usually hold a finger over the bleeding end for about 3 minutes till the blood clots and ceases flowing. the boys seem to forgive me. the hardest part is not to inflict injury by twisting the hip/leg, especially on the indian game who are so vulnerable. the indians get the spurs cut earlier than other roosters as the chances of them tearing the side of the hen is far greater...so then you have the problem of a hen with a huge tear down her side.

hope that helps. k

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:shock: Angle Grinder...

we have to do a few of our roosters... i just havnt been game to do it..

Guess i will get hubby to get out the angle grinder & see.

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...oops, I thought I had also posted this link in addition to the link showing the x-ray of the spur...it is a step by step instructional for using a dremel tool to trim the spurs...
http://www.slipspurbantams.com/TrimmingSpurs.htm

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