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 Post subject: A couple of easier ones
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:50 pm 
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One of our members is (considering) making one of these two,so I hope they will bite their tongue.
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I believe the bottom one is a buckeye.
Think the top might be a Delaware, but just a guess.


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 Post subject: Told you they were easy
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:47 pm 
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Well done, easy for somebody with N American connections.


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Yep, loved the buckeyes, cool looking.

Just a guess on the other. I don't usually have a clue when you post these!


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Short and sweet! :lol: I had no idea on either.

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Which is a possibility of being made?

HOw are they thinking of doing it?


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:22 pm 
i have that photo in my collection too :!:

i love those buckeyes.
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Coopslave, Just looking at the red fellow ,you could start with RIR x Indian game (I'd use Jube) . Have seen columbian rocks with the barred hackles! Martin


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:39 pm 
now why would you use a jub, martin? you don't need white in them. an indian cross to a RIR removes the lacing and body black in one hit, other than in the places you want it. selective breeding will keep the sound red.

i would use a darkIG X RIR then brother sister cross. but i would also look for something of gamey character to also infuse as these fellows are supposed to hunt mice.

they say there is no indian game in the production of the buckeyes but game fowl were used. as there are lots of vaieties with triple comb with more enthusiasm to life than the indian then i feel they are right. the aussie has a triple comb but is rather the wrong shape. however these things are easily fixed. perhaps an aseel looking fowl too could make up for the lack of activity of the indian.

this breed would be good for people who have red mud. it would give a nice utility (of which a lot of utility breeds are not any more) soft feather that didn't need to be washed for shows.

as if we haven't got enough breeds to choose from now, says she who should be reducing numbers and varieties of breeds.
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They are a very attractive bird ruff. I think you should give it a go, I would buy some from you! :D


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Ruff , was basing the Jub on some recent work I had been doing and found the dark lacing very difficult to get rid of .The red covers the buff/lacing well. Wasn't Indian game so you may well be right .
There is a large game bird from Vietnam (can't think of the breed , David , Blackdotte , would know) that has the same comb ,head,and wattles as the red in photo has .


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Martin ,there are a lot. Ga Noi springs to mind. Useless information Ga is Vietnamese for chicken. Maybe a (RIR X Aust Pit) F2 might be a start?


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Stocky pea combed malay is the go ;) I had some Malays with Aussie in them, and breeding yellow x yellow legs was giving me 50% dark legs :shock: (now gone to chooky heaven). Pea comb is a recessive gene, and comes out of some Malay strains a far bit. In reading old texts, the original malays were a mix of pea and walnut combs.

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