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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:53 pm 
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I saw a mouse in the chook yard!

I was very lucky when I lived in town to not have any mice for years (think it had something to do with the 100 or so cats that lived in the street). Even when there was a bit of a mouse plauge and all the hardware stores & supermarkets ran out of traps and all my workmates had mice - even with chooks I never did.

It's all different now out of town - there is chook food and horse food and hay and straw and sheds and chook coops everywhere.

What do other people do - traps, baits, cats? Traps mean I have to get rid of the bodies/trapped live mice, baits could be dangerous around other pets? Cats mean I just have more animals to look after.

Do those big plastic rubish bins with lids keep mice out of the feed or will mice chew through them?


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I do a couple of things to keep the mouse population down...wheelie bins for food, bait in small steel containers with a small hole for the mice to get in and eat the bait and a cat


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Fee - all those things help but its not the entire answer. There is always some feed left in the chickens poo and the mice will still back for that as well.

Unless we have a mouse plaque year, the numbers of mice around the house and sheds will diminish as the grasses start to grow and mice have other things to eat. Its also warmer for them and they dont need the house shelter.

Cats are good and you need to keep the mice under control as the brown snakes are attracted by them.

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Mice and/or rats will definitely chew through plastic bins, so even my plant foods are now in galvanised bins.
We don't have cats outdoors because we want to protect the small birds.
I even had a family of mice nesting amongst the straw under a broody's nest. :roll:
Could someone tell me - if a mouse dies from bait and the chooks eat the body, or part of it, are they in any danger of poisoning?

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lizzie,

I keep rat and mouse baits around all the time (in bait boxes). There have been no ill effects for the chooks and I assume they eat any they find, and my cats may do too. The amount of poison it takes to kill a mouse or rat is much less that what is needed to kill a chook or bigger animal, so unless they are eating a lot of them I think the danger is limited. I have certainly had no problems.

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Not liking the idea of toxic baits,i went and bought one of these aviary mouse traps.
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They are VERY effective,cheap and dispatching mice means dropping the trap into a bucket of water...

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:11 pm 
i keep my snakes. it is a bit of a problem in the winter when they are asleep but i am very fond of my snakes and they do an excelent job and sometimes i get a chance to see them work. sadly i don't often have a camera to shoot them in action.

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Where do you buy those traps from?

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Thanks for the reassurance, NellyG.
Crowingmad, I'm afraid I'm a sook and couldn't use the aviary trap. I take the coward's way and use poisons, because we also have large, superconfident rats.

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crowingmad wrote:
Not liking the idea of toxic baits,i went and bought one of these aviary mouse traps.
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They are VERY effective,cheap and dispatching mice means dropping the trap into a bucket of water...

we have one of these and it wont catch the big rats we have here.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:41 pm 
no but a python or brown snake will.

i forgot everyone is too chicken. kill the snakes and keep the rats.


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we have two cats that have been raised around the chooks. they get atleast one rat or mouse a night.
also, during the day i flood holes with water to kill babies AND at night when they are active i go rat shooting. with a slug gun that is. it is realllllllyyy fun and can be a good family bonding time. HAHA
traps like the picture shown above are good for mice, but with rats are like the hulk of the rodent world. they can chew through and out of anything!

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it is good to see that someone else loves snakes :D :D :D
i have 4 pet snakes (indoors) and have multiple others slithering around eating the rats and mice in the yard.
trust me, if you want something to keep them down, get a python
they are great

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and im sorry to break it to you ruff but i CANNOT stand snakes in the chook yard or on the farm. if i ever see any, the heads are off before they can think about slithering away.
as a pet some would be good, but in the chook yard, i wouldnt trust the sneaky buggers as far as i could kick their severly dispatched heads.

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Yeah i reckon they would be hard to trust with Poultry

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